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| www.insightgroupplc.com Morninga, Bio E grass Boiler Room Scam, Do not Invest a penny you will loose all your money Marbella & Cape town Internet |
| 18th of Aug, 2011 by User575388 |
| (Moringa) and (Bio E Grass) is a total SCAM See UK Sunday times August 14th, the company Insight group Plc, is run by a profesional boiler room team located in Marbella Spain. promoting green products mainly sold by selling on the phone by experienced high pressure sales men earning massive comissions, Stealing money from unfortunate investors who are taken in by these sales men. This is a well packedeged operation, which is not FSA regulated, somtimes boiler rooms disguise this fact by using trustees wha are regulated normall some iffy IFA,, which means absouloutly zero when you loose your Invetment they are off the hook, if you Invest with this you will loose eveything, also avoid Carbon Credits, and most other bio investments as this is where all the Boiler Room scammers focus their attentions on currently. M Richards London |
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Dear Insight Investors
I would like to answer to the above.
Firstly i have never contacted any Investor from my side. I have invited people to call me and have given them advice and information. I have nothing to gain from this and in my correspondence to the investors I have shown my credentials. Some of the Investors had lengthy telephone conversations with me and I disclosed the information i had. i also explain the motive of my actions
i also have a business where i have been involved in facilitating property transactions and structuring transactions. I have offered to assist David Grieve and for specific reason the transaction was not completed. David Grieve however offered my letter explaining my possible conditional involvement to his creditors to justify his situation and this is how was pulled into the transaction. The internet activity has been sponsored and promoted by someone having malicious intentions towards David Grieve. If you read my posting on the site you will see my explanation.
i am admitted as an advocate to the Supreme Court of South Africa and although I do not actively practice as such, I have been a corporate legal adviser for several companies.
I will take instructions from each of the investors I have been assisting and will withdraw for the issue if necessary.
There are reason for people writing under pseudo names and being one of the only people who have been open and honest and disclosed my identity, it now seems that it has been used against me.
Who is Derick de Villiers, i invite you to contact me again as I seen you have done before and discuss this in a different manner.
Adv Derick de Villiers
[email protected]
+27 73 196 5570
skype: bfdevilliers |
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Bored of this
Please explain in more detail what you mean by "Visit whos house" and "who have you got then"
Well if i read between the line Visit whos house well that would be rowletts and longdons wouldnt it as if i dont know their whereabouts
WHO HAVE I GOT LOL WELL I WOULD HAVE THEM SCUM BAGS PAYING ME MY MONEY BACK. OR IT WOULD BECOME NASTY THEY GOT 2 CHOICES REALLY PAY INVESTORS BACK OE ELSE.
i KNOW VOILENCE IS NOT THE WAY TO DEAL WITH IT BUT SOMETIMES ITS THE ONLY WAY BUT BE REST ASSURED THEY WONT BE DOING IT AGAIN |
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I Coming To Get You,
I can see things from your point, i am in the same boat as you, I want my money back also so if your going on some kind vigilante mission then i wish you luck, please let us know the outcome because if you get your money back then i will be following. |
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| People, I know only too well what a fool I have been and what a fool I have made of myself on this forum, but could I please beg your attention just this one more time? Yes, I forced de Villiers to identify himself and now he is in the firing line, as I once wished him to be. But there were things of which I knew nothing and I distrusted his sincere desire to help. We all know that Upchurch is an evil man, but can you imagine what a man without a conscience (and Upchurch has none) might do to someone who crossed him? He used the most ethical vehicle to carry out his plan to deceive and devastate us, for no good reason other than because he is averse to doing anything good. Insight comissioned a succession of in-house lawyers and legal companies, which one of those lawyers has presented themselves to help us now? They've all distanced themselves from us, haven't they? De Villiers is not requiring any money from us and he's what we have. He knows his international business law, he knows the company, and he knows Upchurch and his crew. We could all find seperate lawyers to represent us, and pay through the nose for it but what would they actually know about Insight PLC and its opperations? I don't blame anyone for feeling like they want to go and grab their money back from the Upchurches personally but I would imagine that the birds have flown. Only Interpol can catch them. So we have a lawyer who is able and willing to activate that situation. You can put your questions to de Villiers himself, person to person. We are talking to each other and forming a united front for action. Once again, Currency Index is putting us in touch with one another. Please, don't repeat my mistake and let prejudice and misconceptions blind you now because there isn't much time. We need de Villiers and, actually, he doesn't really need us. |
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Wanabuy -
How can you trust someone who has been involved in a scam before that is completely separate to Insight Plc and even before he was hired by them? Maybe this is why he was hired by them?
Did you not read this? http://antifraudintl.org/showthread.php?t=43038
If you trust this scam informer site so much why arent you following suit with the above site?
Im sorry you feel like you have made a fool of yourself, I can only hope you don't do the same thing again. I am not prepared to risk it for myself as I have invested too much. I am prepared to spend $5k in legals and hope this gets me somewhere.
One thing is certain, I wont be going anywhere near Derick de Villiers.
Really is the last post here this time - good night! |
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| I appreciate your point of view, who is Derick De Villiers, and I wish you the best of luck with your decision to seek legal help elsewhere. I have checked the scam site you mentioned and as a fellow duped investor, this is my personal view: De Villiers has the right to answer the case made against him. Also, I imagine many lawyers discover that they have inadvertantly helped criminals. It goes with the job. He has acted for criminals with Insight PLC, but many honest people have also worked for Insight, haven't they? And you as well as I was deceived by them. For a long time, I just thought - why would Insight be a scam if it could make a lot more money the honest way? It had a sound business plan and every opportunity of being a successful and lucrative concern, one which would have made the directors and all of us a lot of money. I agree that it is hard to believe in anything or anyone when you've been deceived. But just on the purely pragmatic front, whether you want to believe that De Villiers is on the side of the angels or not, all De Villiers is trying to do is complete the necessary processes to action the authorities A.S.A.P.. That is all he's doing. He's not testifying for or against Insight in court. So what harm can he do our case by taking it only that far forward? He has said that he is willing to stand down if that is the popular concensus, but I believe that that would hamper not help our opperation. The more time we give the perpetrators of this fraud, the less chance we will have of getting any of our money back. |
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| I've been receiving unsolicited phone calls trying to sell me investments today, I also received an email claiming to be from the HSBC bank about some estate or other. You know, it turns out to be someone has left a lot of money and you can claim it because nobody else has. That type of scam. I'm wondering if we might be on some scam suckers' list. |
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Wanabuy,
You will be on a list of "scam leads" that the upchurches would have sold to other companies as he was on his way down, he knows he can no longer scam the same people anymore, so he sells the list of "clients" to another firm trying to rip us off. |
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| Yes, that makes sense and what I was suspecting. Thank you Burnt By Them. S.H.I.T!!! Excuse me! Talk about suckers' list, I'm there on the front page! Anyone can walk into the investors' group now that Currency Index are accepting people who weren't their clients, so who's to know whether they are investors or what? Who actually is "who is De Villiers"? He hasn't blogged before, has he?? I got an email from him, bit sarky. Not a pleasant individual I think. Is he really an investor like he claims to be or Upchurch & co? We're going to have to look out for this sort of thing. Oh, crap! |
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| I'm going to warn you all. A guy called "Tony Holloway" alias "who is de villiers" may not be an investor at all. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so. He's emailing Currency Index investors' group telling us he's got this lawyer who can work miracles for the princely sum of £5000. I believe he's Upchurch & Co wanting to scam us again through a make-believe lawyer. Don't believe this! Let's find out who is "who is de villiers". |
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| IM VERY ALARMED. Currency Index have kindly let us use them to get in touch with each other but the problem is we don't know who are genuine investors and who are not . That means anyone can just walk in and collect our details, anything we say, anything we tell each other, our personal details, emails, etc.. I'm suspicious of any character who tells us he's got an excellent (but expensive) lawyer who can work miracles and get us our money back. This is not proving to be a good idea. My original thought was that the more investors who work together to petition the legal apparatus the better. De Villiers' guidance was correct and should be followed. He is offering his services free. He is not a scammer! I am now strongly advising anyone who hasn't already done so to NOT join the investors' group until we can work out a way to make it more secure. There is a data base of investors and we will be able to soon root out impostors who I believe are currently trying to scam people who have joined the group. I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SCAMMER, POSSIBLY UPCHURCH, WHO HAS ENTERED THE CURRENCY INDEX INVESTOR GROUP UNDER FALSE PRETENCE OF BEING AN INVESTOR AND IS TRYING TO SCAM THE INVESTORS IN THE GROUP. |
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Wanabuy,
Thank you for the good information, we should be very wise about this, i really dont think that we will get any money back as we can only really go after the chairman from spain, and i bet he folds his company if he gets wind of people chasing him for money, secondly we can go after upchurch or the authorities can for the fraud case but we will get no money from, i would bet any money he does have is hidden away somewhere. I dont mean to be down on the whole thing but i really do think that the only way we will get justice is if the authorities chase him for fraud. |
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Wanabuy, thank you for sharing your thoughts and fears with us, but I really think you are misguided on this one. We should try to get organized, not divided.
I also think there is one obvious lier on this blog, the "MaskFuture2" on page 2 or 3 who claimed he got his money and that he was a "smart investor". Where is he now? |
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| Your right to pull me up Tijuca, as I have no proof. I did some checks and found that this guy's email is included in the list of investers Currency Index first submitted, their client list, which presumably means his money was transferred to Insight and he is an investor. But he seems to be very energetic. He's telling everyone about this London international law firm he's going to be using and I thought he might be "grooming" us. Maybe not. But something like that could happen. Joe Upchurch is not just bad, he's a "player". If he had just wanted money he could have done a quick six months in and out backroom boiler opperation, concealed his identity and probably got away with millions. But his opperations are a lot more subtle than that. If I were him, you know what I'd have done? Put some money through Currency Index' account into Insight, then go on the records as an investor. Then proceed with the scam. When I'd thoroughly confused and divided everyone, come back as that investor, able and willing to prove that I was such, and provide the answer, slick and neat as you please, all tidy and ready to go with an international legal firm who might cost you a pretty penny but - better than losing all your money to fraudsters. I see where you're coming from and I respect what you say. I'm willing to co-operate with the concensus. But what I'm not prepared to do is pay out yet more money to scammers! I feel responsible, too, because it was my idea to open the group to investors I can't qualify. |
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| I would like to explain something here to anyone reading my recent blogs on this forum. "Tony Holloway" appears on the original list of investors through Currency Index and my original fears about him being Upchurch & co dressed up now seem to very far-fetched. My motives were to protect investors and at the time I thought "Tony Holloway" was an assumed name and that his email header had been disguised. My subsequent investigations have proved that that is not the case. I wish to publically apologise to Mr Holloway for any allegations I may have made concerning his motives on a public forum and wish to retract them. Unfortunately, this site does not allow me to remove my blog. My allegations were made when I was in an exteemely agitated frame of mind and after a sleepless night in which I was worried constantly thinking about how I may have inadvertantly put investors at risk by asking Currency Index to open the investor group up to non clients who they could not verify. If I have damaged the reputation of a fellow defrauded investor through my subsequent actions, I offer my full apologies. If Mr Holloway would like to contact me to discuss how I might amend this situation, I refer to my recent correspondence giving my personal contact details. |
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The Upchurches have started two new businesses in Australia.. how does that even happen? How do they sleep at night? and how do they still have contacts that want to work with/for them?
It makes me wonder if their friends and family know what they do. |
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http://insightgroupplc.blog.com/the-key-players/
http://insightgroupplc.blog.com/the-key-players/
http://insightgroupplc.blog.com/the-key-players/ |
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| There are things coming through that I think will cast some more light on all this. I believe we may find the picture changing in the near future. I guess Upchurch has become some kind of Moriarty of crime and has been presented in the most diabolical light, but the real truth about him and Mrs Upchurch may even so prove to be somewhat mitigated. I understand we may be going to shortly receive some updates from James Rowlat and recent developments have given me some reason for cautious optimism. I won't post anything more about it here but will keep investors informed via the investor group. |
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| Its old news i know but the cheek of it... Renee Muir (Upchurch) has her nice little company in Australia, white pepper media, on the front page she is now calling herself Renee Muir, clearly wanting to stay away from the upchurch name whilst she uses investors money to setup this company, Is anyone else thinking this is fucking brazen bullshit, how dare she scam everyone then setup a new company under her maiden name!! I will be contacting her clients over there to see if they really know who she is. |
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