Raymond Aaron JT Foxx Seminar scam / fraud

Complete scam. Poor quality. Guerilla marketing. Manipulation seminar

11th of Jul, 2011 by upsetmonkey

JT Foxx (real name unknown) and Raymond Arron are fraudsters who have masterminded (and I give them some credit for it), a very clever operation in which they have gone to great lengths to avoid being classed as criminals, technically speaking. But, they ARE criminals. I will explain in detail how their seminars really work using manipulation techniques to get you to buy useless rubbish you think you cant do without.

They are not as rich as they claim. And its obvious after a short while to any intelligent individual that they are not as wise as they claim and certainly not as experienced as they say they are. But they are good. Very good at fooling the uneducated. Of course people will benefit from their over priced programs full of mediocre content. If you're starving and someone throws you a 1000 soggy biscuit - you'll buy it.

Heres want happens during the event.

Firstly its at a grandiose city hotel which will put any low wage earning mortal starting their own business into an environment in which they are not accustomed. It creates the illusion of success and promotes trust in the attendees heads. The tailored suit wearing speakers (mostly Raymond and JT Foxx) act confident and suave but if youre an intelligent person with good instincts youll detect something that you cant quite put your finger on. Later it sinks in you notice a type of cockiness and self-praise which truly successful multi-millionaires simply dont possess.

You are sat down at tables in a small group with water and a notepad. Raymond comes on first and starts teaching some really basic material which is mostly full of common sense and frankly if you havent learned it at school or havent already figured this out, you shouldnt be running a business. There isnt a thing he goes through which isnt free on thousands of websites if you search well enough for some basic business strategy and management tips.

Next a grandiose introduction is given for this infamous mister JT Foxx the name sounds more like a dodgy stock broker doesnt it from broke hes apparently made millions in months but somehow you never heard of him. This tall guy with swagger struts on the stage with his hands in his pockets and starts telling you the facts of life. Hes 31 by the way and has apparently gone from -$34 to +$unknown in 6 years. He will avoid any question about his net worth and his rise to fame by talking a load of rubbish back at you for at least 10 minutes at about 20% faster than you can possibly listen. His only skill is talking. All self-made men are actually proud to tell you their story.

The first crack in their guise is when they pass round a form asking people to fill in the nature of their business and what they want to achieve. They say they will have a 1-to-1 with EVERYONE tomorrow and give them a personalised tip, a blueprint for their business which apparently is worth $5000 an hour from JT Foxx. But when the form comes round there are zero questions about your business just a 1 line space to write what you want to do. Instead its actually a survey engineered to see what budget you have available to spend on training material and whether you would consider training. Then on day 2, oh dear, unfortunately they only had time to give one-to-ones and blueprints to the people who circled yes on do you have a training budget. What a coincidence. I made a point of going to the toilet so I could overhear a one-to-one. And guess what, the entire time they were successfully selling a 2,000 coaching program to this gullible individual.

So day 1 of the seminar will seem completely legit to an uneducated, gullible, innocent or even foreign individual with little vision of their future and a poor understanding of business basics. Sure enough those people will come away from day 1 feeling like they learned a great deal. But if youre already running a business youll realise you knew it all anyway and will come away feeling like you should have only attended day 2. (Raymond tells you that day 1 is the setup for day 2 and that in day 2 youll have to pay attention.) So you come BACK to day 2 thinking it will be better.

The second day starts with some (slightly) more advanced and in-depth discussion on business branding. But lets face it. If you dont know what branding is or how to brand your business, what are you even doing there? You shouldnt be in business in the first place. But after about 11am, the training JUST STOPS. THATS IT. THE END. NO MORE TRAINING. For the rest of the day their friends are invited to speak about themselves and about their quirky lives. Did you go to this course to hear about expeditions to the north pole by a sixty-something year old lady for 2 hours. Well done to her but do we care? Of course we dont. Did you go there to hear about a book on zoomanity for 90 minutes by a quirky guy who apparently used to give lectures on copyrighting but doesnt any more and be made to show gratitude for his presence? At this point you will be feeling fed up with boring generic rubbish which you knew you always knew.

At the end of day 1, Raymond asks what you want to do tomorrow. There are 4 options. Options 1 and 2 are full of buzz words like how the rich get rich and how the broke stay broke. Yes those are the topics. Well thought out eh. But 3 is How did Raymond Get rich and 4 I cant remember. The point is that 90% of the class voted how did Raymond get rich. So did we cover it? NO! Of course we didnt. Because Raymond Arron actually isnt rich at all. And hes not doing these seminars for fulfilment like he says. Hes doing them because hes and JT Foxx need the cash.

All of the training materials they go through in both days are simply echos of a man called Nido Qubein. And then surprise surprise, they actually play you videos and phone calls from him. For over an hour. Apparently JT Foxx spends one million dollars a year to hear the voice of Nido on the phone for 30 minutes a week. OKThen. Even if that was true, JT Foxx must be incredibly thick because he spends a million bucks a year on stuff that I can hear for free - from my mother.
The only question in my mind the whole time was are the minions at the back of the room and all of Ramond Arrons friend guest speakers really aware about what he and Mr Foxx are really doing? What do you think?

Why do you think they go from country to country so quickly?
Why cant you find their real biographies? Even, their real names?
Why do their websites look like shit like they are 10 years old? (Im a developer by the way)
Why does JT Foxx claim he charges $15,000 per hour for consultation and then offer to forward you his sessions with his own coach, Nido for just 50/month - but you have to sign up for 12 months. He claims by the way hes losing money on that offer.

These people are no more genuine than Santa Clause, Rudolf and his red nose reindeers. But heres the good news: Theyll get caught up eventually. And theyll NEVER EVER be rich.
Good luck and God help you if you bought any worthless training program from them.

JT Foxx may now spam this thread below with a load of oposition like he did the last one. But if you've attended one of these events and seen right through it, tell the world here.

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