| Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam |
| Paradise Canyon Vacation to change it's name |
| 27th of Oct, 2011 by STICKSHIFTINHAND |
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
Paradise Canyon Vacation to change it's name
Oct 26, 2011 we have the inside scoop, from an ex female
Paradise Canyon Vacation employee from the Winnipeg call
center, who told our family that Paradise cvanyon vacation
is thinking of changing its name becuase of all the internet
posts, better news still she told us that they changed their
name twice before. Isnt that would tele solutions does, change
their name every few months,isn't this something that scam
companies only do, to continue scamming people, look at Edna,
she uses Ella, Jenna and Britney so people dont catch on to her.
Help us to help others, warn others that Paradise canyon vacation
will be changing their name, just like Tele solutions the magazine
company does every few months,but the presentations will still be
an hour, and the 2 free night hotel stay and dinner for two should
remain the same. they are getting desperate and want to scam people
out of $10,000, be aware and dont beleive any vacation offers over
the phone.
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75 things you didn't know about Paradise Canyon Vacation
Part 1/3 [1-25]
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- $10,000 for a travel membership!!!!!!!!!
This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10,000 to $15,000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3,500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10,000 to $15,000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3,500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7,000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3,500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13,500, shopping around is still free.
This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.
http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html
7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1
Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk!! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- $9700 and go up to $15k
jericho
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1,738
... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.
Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them.... today.
It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.
To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...
The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...
Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued....
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- asking for $9-15K.
Cookie
Totally Choco Chip
I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.
I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.
I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- 2 quotes come to mind
G77
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3,345
If it's too good to be true......
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- Phewwwww.....!!!
werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15
Phewwwww.....!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then...... you all know the rest!
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10,000
Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10,000 to $15,000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10,000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3,500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10,000. Where would you put your money?
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"
Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song
-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.
The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10,000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,000
[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free
Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10,000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,000
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- 50 Ways to Lose your members
Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song
-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.
The problem is all inside your service
and the $3,500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10,000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members
Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11
I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members
Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11
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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam
- A few good men
All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10,000 to $15,000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Abducted by a toilet
97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week
A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory," a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls," he said "but we still
got paid just the same"
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a shit
Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites. Employees like Allbladerss
and gaga come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga trying to slander innocent
workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth, Noel fired a whole bunch of people like
he does every other week, "cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds of
ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and gaga aka Sega you can both go and
eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because your both a piece of shit like the
rest of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees but gaga aka Sega didn’t
mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as
long as employees got good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out . Gaga aka Sega you
bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all for $100 from that fat guy who works out
at the gym everyday for $100, who are you to call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying
stolen laptops at work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars,
next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not
refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign,
Allgallbladerss when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your shit, till then you and
Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise canyon Vacation call centre. Sega you came to
work for 3 months [along with your skinny anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months] as you said
dressed like a model walking down a runway, but to be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100
pounds off your big fat ass.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid
Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10,000 to $15,000 membership, which is $3,500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1,000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10,000 to $15,000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Bring your own toilet paper
I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Bullies Employees
Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10,000 to $15,000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Harasses Seniors
Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10,000
to $15,000, $3,500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10,000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.
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Paradise Canyon Scam Vacation
- "can you spare $10,000?'
Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10,000 to $15,000 with
$3,500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years, which
you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a lengthy
contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't buy nothing
at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home
but bring a cheque for $10,000.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
– Corncobs at work
What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?
Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.
Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10,000 to $15,000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Cracked Foundations
Jeanherself
New Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1
I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350,000 to $500,000
house for schedule A sale at $159,000 and 175,000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30,000 to $50,ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.
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Paradise canyon vacation Scam
- Dave Breeding Turkeys
Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left is now enjoying the outdoors
chasing male turkeys while doing his imitation
turkey mating call. To help supplement his
income Dave has been helping turkeys to breed,
since he's been saving his right hand to assist
Noel, why not make extra money using his left
hand to save the turkey population. so next time
your having a family thanks giving dinner and your
about to say grace before carving the turkey say a
little prayer and thank Dave for without his left
hand there would be no turkey on the table, and if
Paradise canyon Vacation calls during supper tell
the caller to tell Dave that you got better things
to do with your right hand than write them a cheque
for $10,000.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Dave harasses ex-employees
Thursday October 20, 2011 - 6:25pm , 2011 our cousin receives not one
but 2 calls from Dave trying to disguise himself as "James", Noel's
right hand man who sometimes uses his left, trying to question our
cousin about internet blogs. *57 was used and the number traced to
the police station, and the call was more than likely made from
Paradise canyon Vacation call center, during working hours. It's
not enough that Noel tried to use scare tactics and tell our cousin
that the police will be wafting when he gets home the night he went
to pick up his final cheque, our family called the police station and
Noel lied, the police said the internet is free speech. Noel fired
thousands of people even his own Filipino people, Dave go and harass
Noel's Filipino people, we are not Filipinos, Dave go and call Brian
since he was the one who said in the meeting that Noel was protecting
some people who had less sales than him, Brian was angry about being
fired, and he is Filipino who worked with Noel for 4 years. Is this
the kind of company you want to hand over $10,000 to $15,000 for a
travel membership, a company who harasses employees after firing
them, Noel could have given our cousin trade show sheets but he was
out to fire our cousin, for asking Dave to get his antivirus program
back, Noel was very pissed the night he returned the borrowed software,
he hasn't talked to our cousin since and kept shitting on him, that’s
the thanks you get for borrowing your boss who asked for the software,
never trust anyone from work, especially your boss. If this is how they
treat their employees just imagine how they treat their members. Don't
let Dave or Noel get your hard earned money, you will get nothing for
your $10,000 and it is $3,500 not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for
20 years and the prices are no cheaper than other travel agents or if
you shopped around for yourself.
Again October 21, 2011 7:28pm Dave calls back trying to use scare tactics
This time Dave clears his throat not knowing what to say, we believe he
was drunk putting back a few cold ones. Again *57 was used and the number
traced, keep harassing our cousin Dave we will keep tracking and tracing
your calls. This is Paradise Canyon Vacation harassing ex employees.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Dave right hand man with 2 left feet
Noel has a right hand man named Dave who sometimes uses his
left. Some of us worked with Dave before at Tele Solutions,
where 1/2 of the closing supervisors collecting credit card
information had served jail time, and this is where Dave
came from, and he seems to blend right in very nicely with
his prison tattoos. Our cousin used to work with Dave on
Saturday mornings at Tele Solutions and he remembers Dave
coming in to work drunk like a skunk, and got many leads
but once he sobered up he couldn’t do nothing, useless as
tits on bull. Dave comes in to work every other week with
a black eye from bar fights, or misses days here and there
when he's on a drinking binge. Is this the best that Noel
can do for a right hand man who sometimes uses his left.
If this is the quality of supervisors we can imagine the
quality of the salesmen at the presentations, the sales
pitch should be
"leave your money at home but bring a case of two four".
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- Dave still Harasses ex employees
6:10pm , October 24, 2011, Dave ,Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his
left ,is still harassing our cousin and again *57 was used to trace the call
to the police, doesn't the employees at Paradise Canyon Vacation have nothing
better to do than thier supervisor to call and harass ex employees and with
scare tactics and saying "you better quit that internet shit" , Dave get a
real job like working in a tattoo parlor and get real tatto not home made
prison tattoos, Noel fired many Filipinos and Brian was very upset go and
call Brian, leave innocent people alone. I hope people reading this will
think twice about giving Paradise VCanyon Vacation $10,000 to $15,000 for
nothing more than a membership for prices no cheaper than if they shopped
around. For your information they don't tell you its $10,000 till the
salesman gets to your home, don't beleive the "you can't buy nothing at the
presentation, it's strictly information only, and leave your money at home"
There are better things you can do with $10,p000 to $15,000 than let Paradise
Canyon Vacation scam you out of it.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Dave to harass ex employees at home
We found out today Oct 26, 2011 that an ex female employee of
Paradise Canyon Vacation in Winnipeg who worked and quit the
same week of Oct 16-22, 2011 told our family that Dave was
threatening to go to our cousin's house, this is beyond
harassment, Noel fired alot of people, and some people are
fighting back on line, letting the truth be known. Right now
Dave is harassing our cousin with 3 phone calls , all 3 calls
*57 was pressed and the call traced back to the Winnipeg
police department. If Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left comes around our cousin's house, our family will
call his parole officer, and Davecan go back to prison and
get a few more home made oops prison made tattoos.
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- Employee asleep for two days on call center toilet
Published: 2011 Oct 06 7:26pm
A 47-year-old man was asleep on Paradise Canyon Vacation call center toilet
for one and a half days before being discovered by staff, it has emerged.
The man had been hired as a casual tel;e marketer 26th October 2011, suffering
from pains in the chest and abdomen from stressful calls. Co workers gave him samples
of thier calls, and decided he be ok for the rest of the night.
But Noel came to his desk at 7:30pm to give him his booking results, his chair was empty
and the worker had disappeared.
Staff searched for the man in the immediate vicinity of the the call center, but did not find him.
Supervisors assumed that the man had left the call center, so Noel discharged him. It was only
nearly two days later that the man was found in a toilet
adjacent to Noel's office. He appeared to have gone there on his own, locked himself in the
toilet and fell aleep.
"He had been there for one and a half days," said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left acting as a spokesman to The Local.
Franzén said she could not reveal whether doctors had considered the man's condition to be
life-threatening, but she did say that he had not been confused.
"If a tele marketer is in a confused state then we keep an eye on them, but that was
not judged to be the case here."
Dave said that a more thorough search of the call center for the man had not been
judged necessary.
"We are a very big call center, and it's not unusual for workers to just leave.
We didn't look for him because he was not confused."
The call center said in the future that bathroom passes will be assigned.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Employee Theft
Paradise canyon Vacation tele marketers are very good in convincing you
that the presentation is free and leave your money at home, and if you
Haven’t guess by now, it is a scam. The membership is $10,000 to $15,000
but they don’t tell you that till the salesman/woman comes to your home.
Theft is a daily thing at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre, people
having cell phones stolen is very popular, that is because everyone is on
their cell phones surfing the internet playing games, so there is plenty
of cell phones to be stolen. One person even had his bicycle seat stolen
from his very desk, you can’t leave anything down. The manager Noel
actually encourages stealing among his employees, when questioned about
Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and DVD movies, Noel's
reply was that is ok as long as employees get good prices, and Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is Loren's best
customer, we all also have Rob selling stolen $200 sports jerseys for
$40, and his biggest buyer is Ozzie a tall skinny black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, buying a jersey a week, now we also have shady
crooked Mts employees trying to scam you out of $10,000.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Employees selling and buying stolen goods
Paradise Canyon Vacation employees for years have been enjoying
the benefits of buying stolen goods during work time on
company property. When Noel the manager was approached about
Loren selling Xbox, play station, pc games and blue ray movies,
Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Selling stolen laptop for $100
Where else but at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre can you buy a
brand new stolen laptop for $100 still in the box. It happened with
a tele marketer called Sega, who used to come in everyday dressed
like she was a model walking down the runway. Rather than going to
the store to buy a new laptop she took advantage of Paradise Canyon
vacation employee benefits, and purchased a brand new stolen laptop
for $100, off one of the tele marketers, a big fat guy who was going
to the gym everyday so said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left. When Noel the manager was confronted about Loren selling
stolen Xbox and DVD movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got
good prices Not only can Sega buy stolen brand new laptops still in
the box, she can also buy Xbox, play station, pc games and DVD movies from
Loren, are his stolen movies any good, ask Dave Noel's right hand man who
sometimes uses his left, Dave is Loren's biggest customer. Stolen laptops
Xbox games and movies is not all that Paradise Canyon Employees benefits
entitles them too, they can also purchase stolen $200 sports jerseys from
Rob for $40, ask Ozzie an Mts Osbourne Winnipeg call centre employee,
he's been buying stolen sports jerseys one of every week for months, and
wears his stolen jerseys with pride. You too can receive employee benefits
and buy stolen laptops, Xbox games, DVD movies and stolen sports jerseys,
all you need is a desire to lie to people about free presentations and
scam people out of $10,000 for memberships.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Selling stolen sports jerseys
Along with scamming people out of $10,000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get sports jerseys
valued at $200 for $40 to $60, thanks to Rob a tele
marketer in the call centre who has been for years
moon lighting selling stolen jerseys. Is the quality
good? Well just ask Ozzie a tall black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, Noels pet tele marketer
who along with Tyler also gets very easy expo sheets
while the rest of the workers have calls 5 times as
hard. Ozzie has been buying stolen jerseys at the rate
of 1 a week and is very proud to wear his hot jerseys,
Ozzie can afford to buy one very week because he brags
how he's making $20 an hour and his girlfriend is
making $35, you think with that kind of money he would
buy store bought sport jerseys. Just goes to show where
your money goes when you pay your Mts bill. As for Paradise
Canyon Vacation, they give it the thumbs up, because when
Noel was approached about the situation he said it was ok
that Loren sells stolen Xbox, placation, pc games and movies
as long as the employees get good prices. Is this where the
$10,000 membership fee goes, to pay crooked employees. Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is
Loren's best customer. If this is the how the call centre
is running I hate to see the 1 hour presentations.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Selling stolen Xbox games
Along with scamming people out of $10,000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get net prices
on all their favorite Xbox, play station and wi games,
not to mention DVD HD and blue ray movies. All thanks to
Loren one of their top bookers. When Loren is not
behind bars and at work, he is selling Xbox games and pc
games to his top buyer, Dave who is Noels right hand man
and sometimes he uses his left. Paradise Canyon gives
all this the thumbs up, because when Noel was approached
concerning the situation he said "it's ok as long as
employees get good prices", now would you join and
pay $10,000 membership if the employees and right hand
man are all buying stolen DVDs. They should be offering
these DVD movies and Xbox games at the presentations at
employee prices, along with the dinner for 2 and the 2
free hotel night stay.
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- Employee Theft
Paradise canyon Vacation tele marketers are very good in convincing you
that the presentation is free and leave your money at home, and if you
Haven’t guess by now, it is a scam. The membership is $10,000 to $15,000
but they don’t tell you that till the salesman/woman comes to your home.
Theft is a daily thing at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre, people
having cell phones stolen is very popular, that is because everyone is on
their cell phones surfing the internet playing games, so there is plenty
of cell phones to be stolen. One person even had his bicycle seat stolen
from his very desk, you can’t leave anything down. The manager Noel
actually encourages stealing among his employees, when questioned about
Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and DVD movies, Noel's
reply was that is ok as long as employees get good prices, and Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is Loren's best
customer, we all also have Rob selling stolen $200 sports jerseys for
$40, and his biggest buyer is Ozzie a tall skinny black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, buying a jersey a week, now we also have shady
crooked Mts employees trying to scam you out of $10,000.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Enormous Upfront Fee
kimcf
New Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1
Default Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations...
My friends just recently purchased a membership with Paradise Canyon Vacations,
so I thought I would check them out.
This Travel Club sounds the same as every other club out there..... enormous
upfront fee and monthly charges for services that are offered on the internet
for free. I cannot believe that there are still Travel Clubs out there with
the introduction of the internet.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- charge up to $15k
el richo
That's what she said!!!
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Oobie doobie doobie, oobie doobie doobie, woop man, woop man, nick knack noo.
So they offer discounts on holidays, yet charge you up to $15k for the privilege? Sounds
awesome
I'll lend you my bargepole if you pay $4k for postage.
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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam
- Female Tele marketer f-a-r-t-s
Tele Marketer Wendy Suspended For Passing Gas
Girl's Family Says Punishment Too Steep
Winnipeg, Manitoba -- A chubby female tele marketer has been suspended
from work because she intentionally passed gas, according to
Paradise Canyon Vacation management.
Noel reported that Wendy a veteran fat tele marketer was suspended from
Paradise canyon Vacation call center under a company rule against
disruptive behavior and eating beans in the lunchroom.
Supervisors said Wendy repeatedly passed gas to make Ozzie laugh, but
instead Ozzie past out from the stench. Dave ,Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left had to give Ozzie mouth to mouth
resuscitation with an occasional slip of the tongue.
They said the smell also made it difficult to breathe making the other
tele marketers and co workers turn blue in the face and gasping for air.
Noel said that when he heard Wendy farting it was like a wild herd of
elephants trumping and blowing their trunks.
Wendy's family said their daughter isn't perfect and they're appealing
the suspension, saying the manager Noel went too far with its punishment.
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75 things you didn't know about Paradise Canyon Vacation
Part 2/3 [26-50]
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Fifty ways to leave your lover
50 Ways to Leave your Lover or lose $10, 000
Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song
-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.
The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000
[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free
Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000
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50 Ways to Leave your Lover, or to Lose your members
Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song
-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.
The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members
Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11
I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commission
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members
Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Gaga aka Sega has crabs or is that dinner for 2
Now that the truth comes out about Paradise Canyon Vacation employees selling stolen Xbox,
play station pc games and blue ray movies, the employees like Gaga aka Sega come out of
the wood word to protect their jobs, Gaga aka Sega you can go and eat the shit out of
Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because you’re a piece of shit like the rest of
them, I sat next to this person you’re trying to slander and he was a perfect gentleman,
and even though he rode to work, he changed his clothes and brought spare clothes, as for
mental the only mental people is you for protecting Paradise Canyon Vacation it's funny
Gaga aka Sega how you didn’t mention the stolen sports jerseys and stolen Xbox games and
blue ray movies and when our cousin's bike seat was stolen he mentioned to Noel about
Loren selling stolen movies and Xbox games and Noel the manager told our cousin it was
ok as long as employees got good prices, Gaga aka Sega why did you leave out employees
selling and buying stolen goods Gaga aka Sega how much did Noel pay you to slander our
cousin, or is Gaga really Noel impersonating an employee to try and save his company
and sales Gaga aka Sega you can lick my ass and let me crap in your mouth, look at you
trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you’re on the phone,
just tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month
for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, when you can do
this, then you can talk shit about people, till then keep licking the urinals at Paradise
Canyon Vacation call centre. You didn’t quit gaga Noel fired your ass because you couldn’t
produce bookings, and Gaga aka Sega those ants in the ladies bathroom floor, those are not ants,
those were your crabs, were those crabs the free dinner for two you were offering callers on the
phone to attend the free presentation, Gaga aka Sega go see a doctor you skank.
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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam
- Give me Noel NOW!!!
When Paradise Canyon Vacation calls, demand to speak to
Noel, he is the manager, and do not take no for an answer.
They can call and harass people during supper every night
with promises of supposedly free gifts. As for the do not
call list won't do nothing, because the tele marketers
dial all the numbers by hand. The call list may never even
be handed in since people come and go daily. When you speak
to Noel tell Noel you know that the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000 and that you will not give him $3, 500 down non
refundable and then another $40 to $60 a month for the next
20 years. Noel and his boss Rod at the Calgary office hate
people coming to the presentation just for the free gifts,
they call them "roaches". Noel even fires his own people
Filipinos if they don't give him enough leads, even Brian a
Filipino who was with Noel for 4 years. The man is mean,
heartless and cares only about money, and we think he cares
about Edna a short Filipino we call Snooki who has been with
him for years, and is given special rebook sheets and has
Debbie and Catherine wiping her ass finishing up her calls
with confirmation leads. Noel back stabs his own Filipino
people but kisses Tylers and Ozzzie's asses, one night Noel
gave Ozzie 2 expo sheets while other workers had to do all
the hard calls, and Tyler gets expo sheets every night, we
wonder whose nose is browner Noels, Tyler's or Ozzie's. How
can you trust a company whose manager turns on his own people
in the name of greed and money.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Harasses Seniors
Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Bullies Employees
Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is a lot of favoritism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you don’t produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employee’s only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Hat Trick
A hat trick in sports is when a player gets 3 goals in a game
at Paradise Canyon Vacation a hat trick is when you get called
3 times in the same night. Promising you gifts to attend the
presentation and reassuring you that its not time share and
free when the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 and $3, 500 down
not refundable and yes the best part $40 t0 $60 a month for
20 years. Don't let Ozzie, Wendy and Edna get the poweplay on
you. save your $10, 000 and put them in the penalty box where
these scamers belong.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation and The Wizard of Ozzie Osbourne
Paradise Canyon Vacation has an MTS employee, from the Osbourne call centre
location in Winnipeg who calls himself ozzie, a tall skinny black anorexic
man who is making $20 an hour, and his girlfriend $35 an hour so he brags
at the Paradise canyon Vacation Call Centre, yet he comes to Paradise Canyon
for minimum wage to rip off people for $10, 000, this is evil greed $55 an
hour between them both and he needs to come rip off innocent people and lie
to them, we beleive that Noel is paying Ozzie under the table because on
several occasions we have seen Noel give Ozzie several $20, Ozzie claims
that its his pay and that he has no bus money to get home, really he's
making $20 an hour from MTS and his girlfriend $35 working with xrays and
Ozzie has no bus money to get home, maybe if Ozzie wouldn't buy so many
stolen nba and hockey jerseys from Rob, Ozzie may just have bus money to
get home. Rob has been selling stolen sports jerseys at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation Winnipeg all on company time and property call centre for years,
but since Ozzie has arrived business has been booming, and what does Noel
say about all this, when Noel was approached about Loren selling stolen
xbox, playstation pc games and blu ray movies, Noel the manager said it
was ok as long as employees get good prices. When Mts was called they
said that they didn't care what their employees did off company time,
and no supervisor even called back.Yet Mts wants us to give our personal
information to their employees buying stolen sports jerseys at the rate
of 1 per week. Now you know where your money goes when you pay your MTS
bill it goes to employees like Ozzie buying stolen sports jerseys so how
can you trust a company who hires shady MTS employees and people selling
stolen sports jerseys, and not to mention Loren selling his stolen Xbox,
play station pc games and blue ray movies so when you join Paradise Canyon
Vacation and pay $10, 000 membership fee, now you know where your money is
going, membership does have its privileges but only for employees of
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Wendy the Horrible
Beware of Wendy the Horrible; she is Paradise Canyon Vacation's top
con artist and don’t care how many people she scams out of $10, 000,
regardless of age. All she is after is commission and inviting people
to the supposedly free presentations. She is constantly crying and
complaining when not enough people show up for the presentations so she
can make her commission. One night Wendy had a fight with the matriarch
of the Catherine clan, and verified her own lead, this lead to a fight
with Noel, Wendy was so horrible she told Noel the manager "you need me
more than I need you", not only is Wendy horrible but she is stingy and
all talk no action, next night she came back to work on her knees begging
Noel for her job back. She has a very horrible high pitched voice and when
she is working she is the only person you can hear in the room. Her voice
is so shrill that she can awaken the dead, . Be very aware when Wendy calls,
she is very cunning and manipulative and is very good at conning people to
come to the presentation. Paradise Canyon tele marketers don’t have a heart,
all they want is to con you so they can get their commission.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- the 3 faces of Eve now adding Brittney
Paradise Canyon Vacation is so shady that even their tele marketers
are liars and dishonest. If you get a call from a woman claiming to
be Jenna or Ella, her real name is Edna, all the same person using 3
names to try to fool people and rob them out of $10, 000, telling them
the presentation is free and will receive 2 free gifts, only 1 woman
in over a year said she received the free hotel stay, but had travel
to Florida, from central Canada to the other side of the USA, and had
to pay the airfare, you can’t pick and choose where to stay, a free hotel
stay may cost thousands of dollars in air fare, but Jenna, Ella or
Edna all the same person won’t tell you this, she is greedy and wants
you to go to the so called free presentation and be conned out of
$10, 000 she is a good con artist so be very aware. Update now it seems
that Edna aka Eve has added a new name she is now going by Britney
so now when Ella, Jenna or Britney calls you, it is really Edna.
A short Filipino lady trying to sound like a jersey shore poser,
everybody just calls her Snooki.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Hates children
Paradise Canyon Vacation hates when people attending the presentations
bring their children, yet they want to charge $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
a travel membership and a lot families travel with children, and they
don't even tell you its $10, 000 till the salesman arrives at your house.
Contradictory to what is said at the presentation. Paradise Canyon
vacation should at least make accommodations for the children, rent a
room for them supervised with an adult. They want the children’s moms
and dads to fork over $10, 000 but don't care about the children. Noel
the manager says that the children disrupt the presentations and the
salesmen can’t do their jobs. Do you really want to hand over $10, 000
to $15, 000 to travel company that hates children, $3, 500 down and $40
to $60 a month for the next 20 years. Do you really want to pass down
the membership fees down to your children when they grow up?
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- He Shoots! He Scams!!!
Paradise Canyon Vacation tele marketers love to call
Oops, scam people during hockey games. Because they
know that everyone will be at home watching the game.
Especially Wendy the Horrible who is very good at
scamming people and even called Noel the manager
to brag how she got 14 leads the night of a major
hockey game. Don't be fooled or scammed the
membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000. $3, 500 down not
refundable and $40 to $60 a month for $20 years, if
that is not timeshare then tell me what is. Tell those
tele marketers from Paradise Canyon you don't need
their 2 free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, and
that $1, 000 gift voucher. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation get the power play on you.
Put Noel and Dave his right hand man and who sometimes
he uses his left in the penalty box, remember all they
want is to lure you to the supposedly free presentation
to scam you out of $10, 000, don't sign any contracts
or let Paradise Canyon sales people into your home.
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33-Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- I need a hero
Don't we all wish that there was someone who could make
Paradise canyon vacation stop calling during supper so
we can enjoy our dinners. We need a hero especially during
Hockey Night In Canada when those pesky Paradise Canyon
Vacation tele marketers just won't stop dialing our numbers
on Sunday night. It's going to take a superman to fly down to
that Winnipeg call centre and disconnect those entire phone
lines.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Justice League
By now you probably realized that a group of men and women in
spandex tights are trying to take down the Cold Warriors a group
of ice themed super villains salesmen and tele marketers working
under Paradise Canyon Vacation, and in so doing making people
aware what is going inside Paradise Canyon Vacation with the
inside scoop, and what really happens at the presentations,
with testimonials from people who have been scammed. The
management of paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you the public
to know, that the membership fee is actually $10, 000 to $15, 000
with $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20
years. They have tele markers call you and swear till they are blue
in the face that the presentation is free and that you can’t buy
nothing and leave your money at home. This is all a scam the same
scam used by tele solutions when selling magazines, they will call
and tell you 'I’m not calling to sell you anything" but then pass
you on to their supervisor who will try and scam you for over $1000
in magazines. "I’m not calling to sell you anything", that is
because someone else will. They won’t sell you nothing at the
presentation because Paradise Canyon Vacation sales people will come
to your home. Noel the manager even brags how good they are at
ripping people off, and claims that they can get 9/10 people to fork
over $10, 000. This is a scam, the tele markers should tell the people
"we are calling to sell you a $10, 000 membership", and not lie. As for
the free gifts, you don’t get those till after you filled out forms with
your information, and then wait 2-3 weeks in the mail, from what I
heard many people have told the tele marketers that they did not receive
the free gifts. Just like telesolutions who will not send you their $5
watch so described by JD the room manager, which they claim is a $650
diamond watch just so you will pay the $1, 000 magazine fee. The watch
arrives after 2 weeks because you only have 10 days to cancel your credit
card payment. Paradise canyon Vacation will also give you a $1, 000 gift
voucher towards the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership. There are too many
services all around for free and you can get the same prices and even lower
and better if you just shop around. You work too hard for your money to let
travel companies and magazine publishers rip you off.
Together we can make people more aware with knowledge and knowing is
the first part of winning any battle, we have compiled a list of
informative blogs from people who have been called, tele marketers and
members who have been scammed. Paradise canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their dragons to take down our blogs, so please help
us and spread the word, they mostly call people in British Columbia,
Alberta. Manitoba and soon trying to Scam Ontario, calls are in the
evenings. For your entertainment you can check out these pictures
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paradise-canyon.aspx
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Justice League Assemble
It seems that the Knights Of Paradise have joined forces with
the Justice League and not only do they have to deal with the
dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation, but now has a team they have to
contend with its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com. This 3 headed
hydra scam.com is working very closely with Paradise canyon vacation
to take down man, woman or child who dare to venture and post
anything negative about Paradise Canyon Vacation, all posts against
the dragon Paradise canyon Vacation have been removed, all but
one post slandering and hurting innocent employees with malicious
lies. Scam.com is supposed to protect people from scam corporations
out there who lie and rip people off, and not to slander innocent
employees. We need your help to take down the dragon and the hydra,
please if you see any scam links about Paradise Canyon Vacation send
the links to all your knights, fair maidens, friends and family,
together we can slay the dragon and his cousin the hydra and help
people so they don’t get scammed $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a travel
membership which is $3, 500 down non refundable, and imprisonment
in a dark dungeon for 20 years till the $40 to $60 a month has been
paid in full.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Justice League Reassemble
The knights of paradise along with the Justice League
shall not stop till they take down the walls of Rod
and Noel's tele marketing castle and break the
shackles and free all the enslaved tele marketers,
even the rich government social workers like Darcy
and Ms Soldier, they will not even leave behind shady
crooked MTS employees like Ozzie who has been buying
stolen sports jerseys from Rob, they will even break
the shackles and free Loren who has been selling
stolen Xbox, play station, pc games and blue ray
movies. But they will leave Noel in chains to rot in
the dungeon, for when he was approached about Loren
selling stolen Xbox games, he said it ok as long as
employees got prices, joining Noel to rot and
shackled will be his right hand man Dave who sometimes
uses his left, who is also Loren's biggest customer.
It seems that the dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation and
its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com have joined forces
with Cerebus the 3 headed guard dog of Hades aka Complaints
Board.com, which is now guarding the gates and not allowing
people to post anything negative about Paradise Canyon vacation.
All posts get a message saying that it will first be reviewed
by the administrator and then never gets posted, seldom do you
see the message "Your complaint has been added successfully posted!”
Please warn everyone you know, the membership fee is $10, 000
to $15, 000, with $3, 500 non refundable and $40 to $60 a month
for 20 years. They won't tell you this at the presentation,
only when the salesman arrives at your home with the lengthy
contract to sign. Help us in our struggle against the Dragon,
hydra and now Cerebus aka complaintsboard.com, For your
entertainment you can check out these pictures at
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paradise-canyon.aspx
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- I would go nowhere near it
Aviator
Premium Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: CYXX
Posts: 5, 223
Check out the BBB, there are two complaints on there
about them. I would not join anything to pay for
something I can do myself.
My buddy registered himself as a travel agent so he
could guide two tours a year
(it is a free vacation for him).
Myself, I would go nowhere near it.
http://www.vacationtimesharerentals...n-Golf-Resort/
You may want to do a bit more research before shelling
out any cash.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam - Don't do it
Printer
Dumbo Wafflebutt
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1, 976
Don't do it. My father ended up being suckered into joining a
"holiday club" where he could enjoy countless benefits and
reduced price vacations all over the world.
The deals they were offering on their website were nothing
more than any average joe could get if they shopped around
and in the end all he got was a nice looking membership pack
which cost something like 5000 quid
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- I would say watch out
wannaskyline
New Member
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2
Actually. I have been doing some research of my own. I got this call from these
guys last week. Becasue I grew up around the Lethbridge I was quite curious when
they told me their name. I asked flat out if they were affiliated with the
Lethbridge Paradise Canyon and the lady on the phone stumbbled to give me an
answer. That is where I started being skeptical. I asked them where they are
from and the lady told me she was calling from Winnipeg Manitoba. But the area
code on the phone number was a 403(southern alberta area code)
The Paridise Canyon in Lethbridge is a VERY nice place. Yes they have had some
problems with buildings and even part of their course sliding into the Milk River.
But they try to have that fixed up asap and they are very professional. Yes they have
an RCI timeshare system and on their website they even sell vacations. They call there
travel section of the company Paradise Canyon Travel. NOT PARADISE CANYON VACATIONS.
I just got the confirmation email and it looks cheap. They have photo shopped Paradise
Canyons Logo onto it and it looks bad. If you go to the actual paradise canyon website
it looks nice. Do you actually think that a company with such a good reputation around
their community would make up such a crappy email when they have obviously spent good
money on a nice well done website. I dont think so.
This Paradise Vacations company, I would gather, is no better than one of those lame
Vacation Faxes that comes across the machine once a month.
I wouldnt do it... would you?
In closing haha. If you are ever in Lethbridge give Paradise canyon a try. especially
if you are a golfer. Very nice. The the housing area is clean and and cookie cutter
houses adds a nice feel for the community they are trying to uphold. But this other
"vacations company" I would say watch out. I am going to call the actual Paradise
Canyon tomorrow to find out more info and I will post another novel for you.
HAHA Cheers.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- giving them a miss
Zoe Bell
bored desk monkey
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: TORONTO- yay!!!
Posts: 2, 480
Well if that's the quality of their sales team I'll be giving them a miss
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Is Edna Noel's woman?????
Is Edna Noel's woman? That is the question all are asking
at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center in Winnipeg. It
seems that Noel has been firing his own people Filipinos
even Brian who has been with Noel for 3 years. But Noel is
protecting Edna, giving Edna easy rebooks, and expo sheets.
Noel even has Catherine and especially Debbie the supervisors
making certain that Edna and her friend Laura are taken care
of, Edna doesn't have to tell callers that the supervisor will
call them back, she raises her hand and Debbie or Catherine
come running to close the lead and give the confirmation
number, while other tele marketers lose leads because people
don’t answer the return calls. Edna brags about her $1, 000
commission in less than 6 months, but she has Catherine and
Debbie wiping her ass and wiping Laura's ass to ensure sales
and not having missed calls. paradise Canyon Vacation does
a lot of favoritism while other call agents work 5 times harder.
It's unusual that Noel has fired just about all the female
Filipino tele marketers but Edna, If I was Noel's wife I
would be questioning Noel as to why Debbie and Catherine are
wiping Edna's ass guaranteeing her sales, and why Noel is firing
his own Filipino people.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- is it worth my while?
Sunshine582
New Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1
Hi,
Yes this is one of the first hits that comes up when you
google Paradise Canyon Vacations.
I was invited to one of these presentations and while I
could never afford to buy in (University student) I was
going to go for the 2 free nights in a hotel.
Did anyone else go to a presentation and actually get this
offering? Is it worth my precious homework time?
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Going For The Gifts
michk
New Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1
Hello
I actually received a call and my husband and I are
going to an informational seminar tomorrow night. I
have no intentions of purchasing anything at all. I
am only going to receive the 2 free hotel nights.
Did you receive this also? Anyhow good luck to you if
you decide to do it. We do travel, but there is no way
I am paying thousands of dollars to belong to a travel
"club". Take care and good luck!
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- free hotel nights?
jericho
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
No, I didnt get the free hotel nights.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- It's a family affair
Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre is like one big happy family,
out to scam you out of $10, 000. The head of the Matriarch is Catharine
now the supervisor who calls and gives you your confirmation number,
will tell you to enjoy and leave your money at home. Then there is
Tyler, Noel's little pet, whom Noel protects by giving him the easy
expo sheets and rebooks, we always wondered why Tyler’s nose was
always so brown. Then there's Tyler's Auntie who is the coach of a
women’s basketball team who brings with her 1/2 her team along with
her anorexic daughter, how wonderful now you got a mother and son team
scamming people and a mother and daughter team scamming people as well,
then there’s Catherine's daughter Laura who's been away for a while,
and then this other girl that we all believe she is single because she
always wears dresses showing off her cleavage. Beware the Catherine
clan, especially her son Tyler with the brown nose, he is a very smooth
talker and wants to make his momma proud by trying to scam as many people
as he can out of $10, 000.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Just Say "NO"
Help us to help others so they don't get scammed by the professional
Tele-marketing scammers, if you been scammed into a presentation, or
had a bad experience with Paradise Canyon Vacations, please post a
reply and join our community, check your contract you may have 5
days for a refund like some other time share contract, don't sign
any contracts till you bring it first to your lawyer, is it worth
$10, 000 to $15, 000 per $50 month for 20 years on top of the $3, 500
initial start up cost for something you can do yourself for free,
shopping around is still free.
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- Lavatory tips
Lavatory Tips From One Paradise Canyon Vacation employee Who Knows
Submitted by Tele marketer Laura on Tue, 12/12/2010 - 15:26 //
Manager's note: this was submitted yesterday as a comment on our
discussion about improving Paradise Canyon Vacation toilets.
Good advice below; worthy of being an article on its own.
I work as a tele marketer for a major time share company call center.
Here are a few tips for all you lavatory-phobes.
First of all: do not touch anything. As you enter the dreaded lav, grab a tissue and use it to lock the door,
to turn on the sink, and especially to open the door when you leave. Also, bring hand sanitizer with you.
Call centers may look clean, but think about the sheer amount of human traffic dropping germs everywhere.
I'm shocked to see how few tele marketers clean their hands. It's happened a few times that we had to put
little disposable handwipes in the lav when the sink was broken. And at the end of those shifts, it's
surprising how few of them have been used.
Second piece of advice: wear shoes! I am always shocked to see how many people go into the lav without shoes
or socks on. Don't they realize
that the liquid that permeates the floor is piss potpourri? So roll up your long pants before you enter!
The lavs rarely get disinfected.
Between most shifts, Noel is on a tight schedule and barely has the time to give the place more that a
quick once-over.
Next piece of advice is to remember that not all the lavs in a call center are the same. If you are a person with
a disability, or if you are obese, or if you need to help another worker to use the lav, most call centers have
special features to help you.
For instance, many have curtains that can be closed for privacy if ever the lav door must stay open to accommodate
more that one tele marketer. Some lavs even have removable walls. Also, there is usually at least one lav with a
baby change table.
(Just remember that it's covered with dangerous fecal bacteria -- line it with seat covers or something.)
And don't be embarrassed to
ask Dave or Noel for help -- we are used to such things.
My next piece of advice: time your washroom breaks carefully. The worst and busiest times to use the lav?
Right after the break is finished.
Another bad time, especially on a long call, is right before landing a lead, when we make the announcement
that Noel is about to throw 20
gallons on the floor to clean the bathrooms.
Everyone then goes to brush their teeth and curl their eyelashes. Another delicate time to go is when
we have our supervisors in the aisle.
You have to time it right or else you may get stuck at the back and have to wait till everyone else
finishes their service. If workers had to wait then run back and forth every time someone wanted
to go to or come back from the lav, we would never get anything done. So please, don't get nasty
if you do get stuck and end up shitting your drawers becuase all the bathrooms are full
My next suggestion is for those of you who may get stuck in a seat right next to a really smelly
lav: ask the the supervisors Dave, Catherine or Debbie for an unused pouch of coffee grounds to
hold close to your nose. It blocks almost any odor. I noticed that many Asian tele marketers like
Edna think ahead and bring those little facemasks that cover their nose and mouth, thus protecting
them from germs and odors. Pretty smart.
Finally, my best advice would be to not wait until the last minute to go -- even if that means
climbing over the big snoring co worker dude in the aisle [yes you Dave}.
It really sucks when your bladder is about to rupture and you got to keep dialing the phone for
the rest of the shift.
(By the way, that little dirty look from Noel means you CANNOT use the lav before break.)
Oh, and for those people who ask why the lavs are not scrubbed mid-shift, I have a pretty
good idea
theory: tele marketers are trained to fight fires, to treat any first-aid emergencies that may
occur while on the phone, to fight off terrorists, to scam thousands of dollars from callers in
minutes, to speak numerous languages, and to stay calm and smile during life or death disasters;
but we are NOT trained to clean dirty toilets! Would any other educated, rigorously-trained
career-people be expected to clean up crap during their fourteen-hour shift? I doubt it.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Like father like son
We called the owner of Paradise Canyon to discuss employees
selling stolen DVDs, Xbox games, play station games, and the
owner said he will fire anyone selling stolen goods on
company property, when we told the owner that Noel told our
cousin it was ok for employees to sell stolen goods as long
as employees get good prices. The owner backed off as if to
protect Noel yet he said he would fire anyone selling stolen
goods, now why doesn't he fire Noel for allowing employees
to sell stolen goods, all he said was that he would post a
memo and no one was fired. Noël, Rob, Loren should have been
fired along with Dave his assistant Loren's biggest customer
for buying stolen movies and games, Rob for selling $200
jerseys at $40 and Ozzie an MTs Winnipeg, osbourne employee
for buying 1 jersey a week from Rob. Noel slandered our cousin
by pretending to be an employee with malicious slander to
protect his sales, the owner, manager and employees are all
crooked, stay away
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Men will be boys
BRAVE NEW Work Place
Boys told no standing to urinate
'It is a human right not to have to sit down like a girl'
'Standing room only' work place
It's an entirely new definition of "Standing Room Only." Or perhaps a new measure of
"equality" has arrived.
Whatever it is, it has sparked a huge political debate at Paradise Canyon Vacation call center
The trigger for the explosion of opinion? A decision in the Winnipeg district that male tele
marketers must sit on toilet seats when urinating, not stand.
According to the news report, the rule was announced for boys and men at Paradise canyon Vacation
call center, prompting outrage from workers.
Accusing the company of "fiddling with God's work, " and now workers want the issue discussed at
the executive committee at Paradise Canyon Vacaton
"When men are not allowed to pee in the natural way, the way men have done for generations,
it is meddling with God's work, "
"It is a human right not to have to sit down like a girl, " said Sinder senior employee on
his return from India.
Noel did say that the restrooms are used by both boys and girls, and the young boys are not
"good enough at aiming" in order to have "a pleasant toilet."
Paradise Canyon Vacation officials are still listening to opinions on the issue.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Mickey Mouse "watch out"
Paradise Canyon Vacation is out to scam Disneyland, it's
nice to know that the manager Noel can afford to take
his entire family including 12 kids to Disneyland. This is
just one of many extravagant vacations he takes every other
month, which he boasts how cheaply he gets it for. The
average family has never ever been to Disneyland with their
1-2 children, yet the manager of Paradise canyon Vacation
goes 3-4 times a year to Disneyland with 12 children, and his
wife's family and their 10 children, when you’re scamming people
$10, 000 to $15, 000 per travel membership you can afford to raise
a whole army of kids. So you wonder why the membership is so
expensive, it's not cheap to fly 22 kids and 4 or more adults to
see Mickey and Minnie Mouse and stay at the Disneyland resort for
2 weeks, all thanks to the members who paid $10, 000 to $15, 000,
it seems the only one getting the net prices is Noel, everyone
else is getting prices just as cheap or cheaper if they shopped
around. Let us Just hope that Mickey and Minnie mouse have hidden
their nest egg of cheese so that they too don't get conned into
attending a free presentation and get scammed out of $10, 000 to
$15, 000 for the membership.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Noel aka two face
Noel will lie to you right to your face, that is one of the qualities
for scamming people out of $10, 000 to $15, 000. Our cousin offered Noel
antivirus to borrow for one night, after 3 weekends of Noel saying
" I didn’t get around to it" he asked Dave, Noel's right hand man who
sometimes uses his left, and Dave said that Noel is a procrastinator
and that he himself lent Noel a movie and it took him a year and he
still didn’t get it back. Not returning something someone lent you
is just like stealing, and is a power control sickness. Dave told
Noel he needed the software, Noel then just dropped it on his desk.
Since then Noel has been lying to our cousin, when he approached
Noel for trade show sheets, Noel said he didn’t have any, yet Noel
would get up and pass trade show sheets around, Another time when
asked Noel said he didn’t have any but gave Ozzie 2 sheets. Noel
was not the same since returning the antivirus and was no longer
talking to our cousin, and eventually fired him, while giving
other employees the easy trade show sheets. When Noel's boss Rod
was called Rod said trade show sheets were only for callers with
high lead volumes, but on his last night there he saw Tyler’s
aunt who was also given a 1 week termination to sign with a
trade show sheet, Noel was protecting Tyler’s aunt from being
fired. Noel is a lying scum, and two faced who will lie right
to your face. Is this the kind of man you want to hand over
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for travel membership, if this is how Noel
treats his own employees then how does he treat his paying
members. You’re better off flushing $10, 000 down the toilet
then give it to Paradise Canyon vacation.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Noel can sniff Gaga's aka Sega’s Panties
Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites. Employees like Allbladerss and gaga
come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander innocent workers,
whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth, that Paradise Canyon Vacation don't tell you till the
salesman arrives at your home that it’s $10, 000 to $15, 000 for the travel membership, and tell you completely
different at the presentations. Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds of ex employees including his own Filipino
people. So who is Gaga aka Sega to accuse of going on line you skank.
Allgallbalderss and gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre,
because your both a piece of shit like the rest of them, gaga aka Sega is the biggest turd of them all
slandering other employees but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for employees
to sell stolen Xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got good prices, funny how gaga left that part out
Gaga you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just
tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't
forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss when you can do this, then you can tell people
to eat your shit, till then you and Gaga keep licking the urinals at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre.
Gaga it’s easy to talk trash about others, when Noel is paying you to protect his sales, so don't give us the
bull shit you came on your own to shit on employees, by the way Gaga aka Sega that smell you talk about was not
the worker riding his bike to work he brought fresh clothes with him, that smell was of dead fish coming from
your panties, go and see a doctor for yeast infection you skank, or better still have a bake sale don't forget
to invite Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left to the bake sale Dave just loves
fish smelling cream pies.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Noel slanders employees
Noel posted the malicious mean lying post against our cousin posing
as "Gaga" aka Sega on scam.com an ex female employee who says she
worked for Paradise canyon Vacation call center for 3 months, yet
funny doesn't leave her real name; a real ex employee would not be
afraid to leave their real name, this is either Noel or someone he
paid to go online.Yes Paradise canyon vacation is $10, 000 to $15, 000
to join which they don’t tell you until the salesman arrives at your
house, completely contradictory from what is said at the free
presentations. It is $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 t0 $60 per
month for 20 years and let’s not forget the lengthy contract you have
to sign. Noel was aware for years about stolen Xbox, play station and
pc games and movies being sold by Loren and stolen sports jerseys by
Rob valued at $200 selling for $40 to $60, when approached about the
stolen DVDs and Xbox games he said it was ok as long as employees
get good prices. Now what kind of business allows for stolen goods
to be sold on company property. As for the employees, yes there are
very rich people including government employees, including Ozzie an
MTS, Winnipeg Osbourne sales rep, whose been buying Robs sports
jerseys at the rate of 1 per week, and Dave his right hand man who
sometimes uses his left is one of Loren’s biggest customers. Whatever
Noel said about our cousin is all lies to protect Paradise Canyon
Vacation, check out trip advisor to read the truth about Paradise
Canyon Vacation. Noel is now paying his employees to protect his sales.
Noel impersonating as "Gaga" on scam.com calls people mental yet he
approves of stolen goods in the call centre. and calling people losers
when Noel fires his own Filipino people, he is supposed to look after
his own people not crap on them. All Noel has written or has paid
one so called "Gaga" aka Sega to write is all lies. The truth is Noel
tried to steal our cousin’s antivirus which he lent Noel for one night
because Noel asked to use it, for 3 weeks Noel said he was too busy or
"I didn't get around to it" then our cousin asked Dave his assistant
or Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left to please ask for
it back, since then Noel has treated our cousin like crap, and eventually
fired him all because he asked for his software back, then he accused our
cousin of writing things on line and told our cousin that the police
will be waiting at his home when he gets home, this was all threats and
lies, the police station was not aware and said the internet was free
freedom of speech. Paradise canyon Vacation is like a revolving door
employees come and go every day, hundreds if not thousands of employees
have quit from that call centre. Noel I'm sure has fired thousands of
people, yet he blames our cousin all because he asked for his software
back, and because he didn't let Noel intimidate him by trying to
steal his software. Noel even calls the police on employees, a scare
tactic. Is this the kind of company you want your want one of your
friends or family members working for. This employee who wrote the blog
is more than likely Noel himself posing a "Gaga" aka Sega a past female
employee to slander our cousin and try to protect his sales.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Oh Come All Yee Roaches
Whenever Paradise Canyon Vacation calls it is just like Christmas time,
perhaps they should answer their calls with a "ho ho ho" because they will
offer you so many gifts just to attend their 1 hour presentation.
1) 2 free night hotel stay, 30 hotels right across North America
2) Dinner for 2, usually Boston Pizza they claim $50
3) $1, 000 gift voucher, towards the services after you spend $10, 000
4) Draw for 7 day resort stay
5) Boat cruise, yearly draw prize
They give like Santa but save like Scrooge, the owner and manager
call the people who come out to the presentation/expo for the free dinner
for 2 and 2 free night hotel stay "roaches” and they don't like people
coming out to the presentation/expo for just the free gifts. Then why do
they make the tele marketers tell the people about the gifts, and then
insult the people for showing up to receive the gifts they were promised
on the phone. All they want is $10, 000 to $15, 000 for their membership
for vacation prices one can get cheaper or just as cheap if they shop
around. The gifts, coupons are not given the same night, you have to
fill out a registration form and wait 2-3 weeks in the mail. Yet they
want people to show up sometimes the very same night for their
presentation, but you have to wait 2-3 weeks, that is if you receive
your gifts. One lady received the 2 free night’s hotel but had to fly
to Florida from Alberta to use it, and pay her own air fare, you can't
just pick and chose which hotel you want to stay at, depending on where
it is, it may cost you hundreds if not thousands of dollars to get to
the hotel destination. As for the $1, 000 gift voucher that is only after
you have given the salesman a non refundable cheque for $3, 500 and sign
the lengthy contract to pay $40 to $60 a month for the next 20 years. In
the long run coming out for the free gifts is not so free after all.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- One flew over the cuckoo’s nest
I worked at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre in Winnipeg,
and it was just like being in the movie "one flew over the cuckoos
nest", but unfortunately there were more than one cuckoo. There
were people selling stolen sports jerseys like Rob, and others like
Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station, pc games and blue ray movies,
Loren we believe spent 1/2 of his time behind bars when not at work
for days on end. Then we have a tall black anorexic man from the
MTS Osbourne Winnipeg call center, Ozzie who loves to brag how he
is making $20 an hour at MTs and his girlfriend $35 working with x-rays,
and he just can't stop talking about the house he bought, and what does
Ozzie aka Chris do with all his money, buys stolen sports jerseys
from Rob at the rate of 1 per week, so know you know what happens
when you pay your MTS bill, employees like Ozzie buy stolen sports
jerseys. When approached about the stolen Xbox games Noel said it was
alright as long as employees got good prices Then we have the warden
Noel who loves to fire people every other week "cleaning house" as he
calls it, and lastly his right hand man Dave, who sometimes uses his l
eft, with his prison tattoos he blends in nicely with Rob and Loren,
we call them the 3 amigos, that is just the tip of the iceberg, n
ow you see why we call the Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre
"a few flew over the cuckoo’s nest"
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Out of the woodwork
Paradise canyon vacation is getting its rich MTS sales rep from Osbourne
Winnipeg Ozzie and it's government social workers lets not forget Gaga
aka Sega to go online and try to save the company, the bottom-line is,
they are all lying to the people they call. Tell them the presentation
is free don’t bring any money. When the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000
and you can get the same deal if not cheaper if you shop around. When
you come to the presentation for the 2 free gifts, Noel the manager and
the owner says you are roaches, but they want your $10, 000 and insult the
people for coming to the presentation for the gifts they were promised.
Is this the kind of company you want to give $10, 000 to, who calls people
names and thinks of people as roaches? The shady employees are coming on
line to protect their sales, the same employees who are buying stolen
sports jerseys from Rob valued at $200 for $40, and stolen Xbox, play
station, pc games from Loren, this is ok for the manager Noel when a
approached said it was ok as long as employees get good prices. So
when you read or see posts from Paradise Canyon trying to protect Paradise
Canyon and slander the employees for speaking out, it is more likely Noel
the manager trying to protect his job and sales.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Paradise Canyon to buy Tiger Wood's Juniper Estate
Tiger Woods will soon be selling his Juniper Estate to Paradise
Canyon Vacations so that it can be turned into time share. With
Tiger Woods golf career at an all time low at 44 in rankings.
Paradise canyon Vacation will be giving Tiger Woods 30% share
of membership fees, with being scammed sorry paying $10, 000 to
$15, 000 to receive nothing more than a membership, and travel
prices just as cheap or cheaper if they shopped around. That
would give Tiger Woods a good $3, 000 to $5, 000 per membership.
Could this mean that Nike and Paradise Canyon Vacation may
soon merge, will we soon be seeing PCV on sneakers along with
the Nike swoosh. The good news is that we may soon hear the
pitter patter of tiny little feet at Juniper Estate, [no Elin
is not having another cub], as families rush to move in for
their time share vacations with their little ones.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Tiger Woods to Promote Paradise Canyon Vacations &
Golf Resort
Tiger Woods to Promote Paradise Canyon Vacations &
Golf Resort, seeing how Tiger Woods is spiraling downhill with
his golf career, Tiger Woods has dropped a further six places
to 44th in the world golf rankings and he may soon have to
sell his Juniper Estate to purchase new golf clubs and a Gucci
golf bag. As the spokes person for Paradise Canyon Vacations
and Golf Resort Tiger Woods can rest assured that he can
afford to travel to all his tournaments at net prices. So the
next time you pick up your phone and the display reads
tele marketer from Paradise Canyon Vacations, and you hear a
"GROWL" big cat roar. It may just be Tiger Woods asking you to
come to a presentation and fork over $10, 000 for a membership
so he can pay for his wife Elin Nordegren child support.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- is paying scam.com?
Is Paradise Canyon Vacation paying scam.com?
Scam.com is protecting Paradise Canyon Vacation
and allowing them to keep on scamming people for
$10, 000 to $15, 000, for travel services people
can get just as cheap or cheaper if they shop
around, scam.com is allowing Gaga from Paradise
Canyon Vacation in Winnipeg call centre to slander
employees with mean malicious lies, yes you "GAGA"
aka Sega to protect their scam sales, Gaga why
didn't you mention that for years Rob and Loren have
been selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and
blue ray movies along with stolen sports jerseys,
and by the way Gaga aka Sega the person you’re
slandering Mike our family and cousin when he
questioned Noel about the stolen Xbox games being
sold by Loren, Noel told our cousin it was alright
as long as employees got good prices, Gaga aka Sega
you like to slander our cousin Mike but like to
leave out employees buying and selling stolen goods. `
Is this what scam.com is about slandering employees,
instead of posting corporate scams.Scam.com is the only
web site that has taken down virtually all complaints
about Paradise Canyon Vacation, only allowing other
employees to post malicious lies like skanks named
"Gaga" aka Sega, scam.com is not supposed to take down
complaints or ban people from posting complaints,
scam.com is being paid by paradise canyon vacation to
ban anyone from posting complaints and remove complaints.
Scam.com is a scam if this how how they run their web
site, scam.com and "gaga' aka Sega the 3 month employee
who is all talk but can’t leave her real name, Gaga aka
Sega how much did Noel pay you to protect his sales.
Scam.com and gaga AKA Sega keep on licking the urinals at
Paradise canyon Vacation call centre, and while your at it
have a free lunch eating in the toilet bowls on employee
turd, because you are what you eat, your both turds
hiding the truth.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
Paradise Canyon Vacation to change it's name
Oct 26, 2011 we have the inside scoop, from an ex female
Paradise Canyon Vacation employee from the Winnipeg call
center, who told our family that Paradise cvanyon vacation
is thinking of changing its name becuase of all the internet
posts, better news still she told us that they changed their
name twice before. Isnt that would tele solutions does, change
their name every few months, isn't this something that scam
companies only do, to continue scamming people, look at Edna,
she uses Ella, Jenna and Britney so people dont catch on to her.
Help us to help others, warn others that Paradise canyon vacation
will be changing their name, just like Tele solutions the magazine
company does every few months, but the presentations will still be
an hour, and the 2 free night hotel stay and dinner for two should
remain the same. they are getting desperate and want to scam people
out of $10, 000, be aware and dont beleive any vacation offers over
the phone.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Points incentive and bonus
Membership cost is $10, 000 to $15, 000
The sales bonus figures is from the actual employee hand book
1st sale = $25 dollars...$10, 000/$25 = 0.25 or 1/4 of 1 percent
2nd sale = $50 dollars...$10.000/$75 = 0.75 or 3/4 of 1 percent
3rd sale = $100 dollars...$10, 000/$175 = $175 or 1.75%
4th sale = $150 dollars...$10, 000/$325 = $325 or 3.25%
5th sale = $200 dollars...$10, 000/$525 = $525 or 5.25%
Now lets break this down another way, so you can see that Paradise
Canyon Vacation even scams its own employees
1st sale $10, 000 = $25 = 0.25% or 1/4 of 1 percent
2nd sale $20, 000 = $75 = 0.325% or 1/3 of 1 percent
3rd sale $30, 000 = $175 = 0.583% or 6/10 of 1 percent
4th sale $40, 000 = $325 = 0.8125% or 8/10 of 1 percent
5th sale $50, 000 = $525 = 1.05% or 1.05%
Noel the manager has said that in all the years in business he
has only seen 1 person hit 5 sales. Out of 25 call agents 3 sales
on a pay cheque happens for 1 person every 3 months. It is set up
to pay as little as possible as less often as possible.
The presentation sales man sales bonus
6 sales of $10, 000 = $10, 000 or $1, 666 per sale = 16.6%
[Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15/hour on the job bank]
This is from the actual employee guide book
Sales Bonus
TSRs are paid a base wage of $10 per hour plus bonuses
At any time a TSR achieves 10 qualified bookings [couples]
in a shift, he or she is paid $15/hour for that shift
-there are 4 sales people who can get 10 bookings,
and that is maybe 1-2 per week, out of those 4 people
the manager gives 2 of them easy expo and rebook sheets
-now this is completely different than what is posted on the
job banks where it states $15/hour for 24 hours [sometimes 20]
Paradise Canyon Scam - Tele Marketer Points Bonus Incentive
Paradise Canyon Vacation even runs the call centre like a time share
company using a points system, members receive enough points every year
to stay for 2 weeks only at one of their resorts. Here is the actual
points bonus incentive from the employee handbook
Points Bonus Incentive
A qualified expo attendee is worth one point
Any TSR rthat reaches 20 points or more 2 months in a row, their base
salary go up to $12 per hour
After achieving the base wage of $12 per hour and you do not reach 20
points again two months in a row, the base wage go back down to $10
per hour
When you fail to have any qualified expo attendee for every expos,
your employment relationship with our company is re-evaluated
Here is the actual sales bonus ioncentive from the employee handbook
Sales Bonuses
Tsrs are paid a base wage of $10 per hour plus bonuses
At any time a Tsr achieves 10 qualified bookings [couples]
in a shift, he or she is paid $15/hour for that shift
-now this is completely different than what is posted on the job banks
where it states $15/hour for 24 hours [sometimes 20]
Even the presentation is run the same way, here is a quote from someone
on trip advisor that attended the presentation and met with the salesman
Jericho
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Just to close this off (and in case anyone else gets a call from them in
the future), we had the sale guy round this evening.
Turns out that you have to put down a minimum of $3500 before you can
even use the services... which is completely in contrast to what was
explained in the presentation originally.
Suffice to say he was told to sling his 'ook.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Pssst wanna buy a stolen laptop for $100
Where else but at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre can you buy a
brand new stolen laptop for $100 still in the box. It happened with
a tele marketer called Sega, who used to come in everyday dressed
like she was a model walking down the runway. Rather than going to
the store to buy a new laptop she took advantage of Paradise Canyon
vacation employee benefits, and purchased a brand new stolen laptop
for $100, off one of the tele marketers, a big fat guy who was going
to the gym everyday so said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left. When Noel the manager was confronted about Loren selling
stolen Xbox and DVD movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got
good prices Not only can Sega buy stolen brand new laptops still in
the box, she can also buy Xbox, play station, pc games and DVD movies from
Loren, are his stolen movies any good, ask Dave Noel's right hand man who
sometimes uses his left, Dave is Loren's biggest customer. Stolen laptops
Xbox games and movies is not all that Paradise Canyon Employees benefits
entitles them too, they can also purchase stolen $200 sports jerseys from
Rob for $40, ask Ozzie an MTS Osbourne Winnipeg call centre employee,
he's been buying stolen sports jerseys one of every week for months, and
wears his stolen jerseys with pride. You too can receive employee enefits
and buy stolen laptops, Xbox games, DVD movies and stolen sports jerseys,
all you need is a desire to lie to people about free presentations and
scam people out of $10, 000 for memberships.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Psst wanna buy some stolen sports jerseys
Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get sports jerseys
valued at $200 for $40 to $60, thanks to Rob a tele
marketer in the call centre who has been for years
moon lighting selling stolen jerseys. Is the quality
good? Well just ask Ozzie a tall black man from MTS
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, Noels pet tele marketer
who along with Tyler also gets very easy expo sheets
while the rest of the workers have calls 5 times as
hard. Ozzie has been buying stolen jerseys at the rate
of 1 a week and is very proud to wear his hot jerseys,
Ozzie can afford to buy one very week because he brags
how he's making $20 an hour and his girlfriend is
making $35, you think with that kind of money he would
buy store bought sport jerseys. Just goes to show where
your money goes when you pay your MTS bill. As for Paradise
Canyon Vacation, they give it the thumbs up, because when
Noel was approached about the situation he said it was ok
that Loren sells stolen Xbox, play station, pc games and movies
as long as the employees get good prices. Is this where the
$10, 000 membership fee goes, to pay crooked employees. Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is
Loren's best customer. If this is the how the call centre
is running I hate to see the 1 hour presentations.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Pssst wanna buy some stolen Xbox games
Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get net prices
on all their favorite Xbox, play station and wi games,
not to mention DVD, HD and blue ray movies. All thanks to
Loren one of their top bookers. When Loren is not
behind bars and at work, he is selling Xbox games and pc
games to his top buyer, Dave who is Noels right hand man
and sometimes he uses his left. Paradise Canyon gives
all this the thumbs up, because when Noel was approached
concerning the situation he said "it's ok as long as
employees get good prices", now would you join and
pay $10, 000 membership if the employees and right hand
man are all buying stolen DVDs. They should be offering
these DVD movies and Xbox games at the presentations at
employee prices, along with the dinner for 2 and the 2
free hotel night stay.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Rising Urinal
Reading urinal rises to the occasion
Reading urinal
Now you see it... now you don't
The company's first rising urinal is to make its ascent in the hallway of Paradise Canyon Vacation
The Urilift is a tardis-like unit containing three urinals.
Cleverly hidden during the day under the tiles, disguised as a manhole cover it can be raised using
a hydraulic system operated by remote control on Noel's desk. Widely used in Manitoba, the invention
is designed to be used at night to stop tele marketers using desks and garbage pails as toilets.
Hopefully this facility will encourage men to walk an extra couple of yards to relieve themselves
It is visible, easily accessible and hygienic, and is located between Noels desk and the
presentation room in the heart of the call center
Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, said he was thrilled that Paradise canyon
vacation Call center was the first place
in the country to install the technology.
Paradise Canyon vacation is famous for many things like scamming members out of $10, 000 but never
before have we been noted for our innovative sanitary facilities."
Manager Noel said there was a serious reason for installing the device.
Paradise Canyon Vacation thriving night-time calling and economy brings many benefits but the result
of some men's unhygienic behaviour is not one of them.
"Hopefully this facility will encourage the male tele marketers to walk an extra couple
of yards to relieve themselves."
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Robin Hood??????????
The story of Robin Hood was stealing from the rich to give to the poor,
but at Paradise Canyon it's backwards, instead Paradise Canyon steals
from the poor, seniors and average low income people to give to the rich
the salesmen and tele marketers. When you drive into paradise Canyon
Vacations tele marketing office, it is like walking into a new car show
room all the tele marketers all have expensive brand new cars. There is
hardly a car under $35, 000, except for Edna aka Jenna, Ella and now
Britney she is driving a brand new gm, all the other tele marketers
have more reliable Toyotas All the tele marketers are rich, like Ozzie
an MTS employee from Osbourne Winnipeg location, he just bought a big
new house, his girlfriend is making $35 an hour and Ozzie is making $20
an hour, yet he comes to Paradise Canyon to rip off poor seniors, then
there is the government social workers like Darcy who’s driving a
$40, 000 Toyota and Ms Soldier making at least $25 both an hour or not
more ripping off seniors and low income people trying to con them out
of $10, 000 for a supposedly free presentation. Government social
workers should not be trying to scam seniors and lying about a free
presentation which costs thousands of dollars. Then we have Paul aka
Sinder who pretends to be poor, and is too afraid to leave Paradise
Canyon Vacation for a real job, but has no problem flying to India
and back. Don't let Paradise Canyon scam you out of your hard earned
money, we all can't be as rich as these tele marketers.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Shady Employees
Not only do Paradise Canyon Vacation tele marketers
lie to people on the phone trying to convince them that
the 1 hour presentations are free, When actually the
membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000, $3, 500 down not refundable
and $40 to $60 a month for the next 20 years.
"you can’t buy anything at the presentation, it is strictly
information only, I’m not calling to sell you anything,
leave your money at home and right off the hop let me assure
you I’m not calling to sell you anything" and the famous
"bring your wife or travel partner so nothing is lost in
the translation", they know that people who come alone will
tell the salesman "I got to talk to my spouse"
On with the shady employees, first we have Rob selling stolen
sports jerseys valued at $200 for $40 to $60 dollars, who uses
Paradise Canyon Vacation as an outlet to sell these Jerseys, his
biggest buyer is Ozzie an Osbourne, Winnipeg MTS tele marketer who
buys a new jersey just about every week, he’s wearing a different
stolen jersey every week, and we believe he’s working on buying
the whole collection. Next is Loren who is seldom at work, we believe
he spends most of his time behind bars, he sells a lot of stolen
Xbox, play station, pc games and DVD movies which he shop lifts from
stores. One of his biggest clients is DAVE the supervisor, Noel's
right hand man, and sometimes he uses his left.
The manager of Paradise Canyon vacation is well aware of all the
stolen DVDs and jerseys buying and selling going on, when he was
approached about the situation, he said it was alright as long as
the employees were getting good prices. Now this is just the call
centre would you trust the salesman at the presentation if this is
how the call centre is running.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Sharks in Paradise
Yes there are sharks at Paradise Canyon Vacation, these predators the
tele marketers the creatures of the night who call every evening can
smell a $10, 000 membership fee victim from miles away, the biggest of
these sharks is Wendy The Horrible, with a shrilling voice that can
awaken the dead; she came to Paradise Canyon Vacation from another
travel agency and brags about being the best sales agent, next we have
the great brown shark Ozzie and MTs employee making $20 and his
girlfriend $35 an hour, yet he likes to scam innocent people out of
thousands of dollars for minimum wage, as a hobby this tall black skinny
anorexic black man buys stolen sports jerseys from Rob at the rate of 1
per week, then we have Rob who is a unemployed repo man who moon lights
selling stolen sports jerseys at Paradise Canyon call centre for several
years, let’s not forget Loren for without him employees can’t get stolen
Xbox, play station and pc games and blue ray movies, Loren's biggest
customer is Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left,
Dave is an alcoholic with prison tattoos, who comes in to work every
other week with a black eye from bar fights, and misses days off work
when he goes on a drinking binge, when approached about the stolen Xbox,
play station, pc games and movies Noel the manager said it was alright as
long as employee got good prices, wouldn’t you love to have an
understanding boss like Noel? from the Catherine clan we have her son
Tyler who gets only the easy rebooks and expo sheets, he is a smooth
talker on the phone who wants to scam as many people as possible to make
his momma proud, back by popular demand is Jessie who was gone for while,
who is such a good con artist he once scammed a business and booked 3 leads
to go home early with pay. Let us not forget Edna, Noel's favorite Filipino,
all the other Filipinos Noel fired, which is unusual since Noel is a
Filipino himself, Edna we believe is schizophrenic with at least 3
personalities she uses on calls, aka Jenna, Ella and lastly she has
added Britney, she is a short fat lady but we all just call her Snooki.
Beware the sharks of Paradise canyon, and don't let these scam artists
take a bite of you or your wallet or purse. Did we forgot Rod the Megaladon,
Noel's boss out of Calgary, Alberta the 52-foot (16-metre) version of the
White Shark with jaws large enough to engulf a rhino.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- sounds like direct buy
ann m
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Cochrane, Alberta
Sounds like that Direct Buy company - where you pay them fees,
to then sell you something for a supposedly cheaper
price ... I'm not convinced ...
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Thanks for the warning
Linda-PAlbert
Saskatchewan
Posts: 4
05 August 2011, 12:53
Thank you. This type of discussion is why we ALWAYS check
out Trip Advisor! We have been booking our Caribbean
holidays ourselves over the past 10 years and always
consult Trip Advisor!!! Thanks to all who post honestly
to this forum!
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Tele marketer's head stuck in toilet seat
Firefighters Manitoba came to the rescue of a tele marketer who had a toilet seat stuck on his head.
The worker, aged 18 and a half, and his worried supervisor went to Winnipeg fire station after she
was unable to get the toilet seat off his head.
Firefighter said: "We put some dish washing liquid on his head and ears and it slid off nice as pie.
"The tele marketer was very brave and didn't make a fuss and once we had got the seat off he toddled
away as happy as can be."
The fireman added: "The tele marketer had put his head through it and couldn't get it out again,
he came in here wearing it like a collar.
"His supervisor had tried to get it over his head but couldn't budge it so she walked him down here
and asked us to have a look at it and we went to work and we managed to get it off in no time."
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- The 3 faces of Eve now adding Brittney
Paradise Canyon Vacation is so shady that even their tele marketers
are liars and dishonest. If you get a call from a woman claiming to
be Jenna or Ella, her real name is Edna, all the same person using 3
names to try to fool people and rob them out of $10, 000, telling them
the presentation is free and will receive 2 free gifts, only 1 woman
in over a year said she received the free hotel stay, but had travel
to Florida, from central Canada to the other side of the USA, and had
to pay the airfare, you can’t pick and choose where to stay, a free hotel
stay may cost thousands of dollars in air fare, but Jenna, Ella or
Edna all the same person won’t tell you this, she is greedy and wants
you to go to the so called free presentation and be conned out of
$10, 000, she is a good con artist so be very aware. Update now it seems
that Edna aka Eve has added a new name she is now going by Britney
so now when Ella, Jenna or Britney calls you, it is really Edna.
A short Filipino lady trying to sound like a jersey shore poser,
everybody just calls her Snooki.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- The Guide to Taking a Dump at Work
Originally published in 2005 as "The Paradise Canyon Vacation Tele marketers guide
to taking a dump in a call center"...this document is a living tribute to something
we all have to do at our jobs from time to time. Foul smells, rude sounds, and bad
reputations are the stuff of legend or nightmare for many a minimum wage worker
tele marketer. With this "Guide to taking a dump at work" we will "show you the ropes
and help through a difficult learning time for many, and a happy place for others...
Escapee -- A fart that slips out while taking a leak at the urinal or forcing poop in
a stall. This is usually accompanied by a sudden wave of panic/embarrassment. This is
similar to the hot flash you receive when passing a police car while speeding. If you
release an escapee, do not acknowledge it. Pretend it did not happen. If you are standing
next to the farter at the urinal, pretend that you did not hear it. No one likes an escapee,
it is uncomfortable for all involved. Making a joke or laughing makes both parties feel uneasy.
Jailbreak (Used in conjunction with escapee) -- When forcing poop, several farts slip
out at a machine gun's pace. This is usually
a side effect of diarrhea or a hangover. If this should happen do not panic, remain in
the stall until everyone has left the bathroom so to spare everyone the awkwardness of
what just occurred.
Courtesy Flush -- The act of flushing the toilet the instant the nose cone of the log hits
the water and the poop is whisked away to an undisclosed location. This reduces the amount
of air time the poop has to stink up the bathroom. This can help you avoid being caught
doing the WALK OF SHAME.
Walk of Shame -- Walking from the stall, to the sink, to the door after you have just
stunk-up the bathroom. This can be a very uncomfortable moment if someone walks in.
As with all farts, it is best to pretend that the smell does not exist.
Out of the Closet Pooper -- A colleague who poops at work and is damn proud of it. You
will often see an Out of the Closet Pooper enter the bathroom with a newspaper or magazine
under their arm. Always look around the office for the Out of the Closet pooper before
entering the bathroom.
Pooping Friends Network -- A group of coworkers who band together to ensure emergency
pooping goes off without incident. This group can help you to monitor the whereabouts
of OUT OF THE CLOSET POOPERS and identify SAFE HAVENS.
Safe Haven -- A seldom-used bathroom somewhere in the building where you can least expect
visitors. Try floors that are predominantly of the opposite sex. This will reduce the odds
of a pooper of your sex entering the bathroom.
Turd Burgler -- A pooper who does not realize that you are in the stall and tries to force the
door open. This is one of the most shocking and vulnerable moments that occur when work taking
a dump at work. If this occurs, remain in the stall until the TURD BURGLAR leaves. This way, you
will avoid all uncomfortable eye contact.
Camo-cough -- A phony cough which alerts all new entrants into the bathroom that you are in a
stall. This can be used to cover-up a WATERMELON or to alert potential TURD BURGLARS. Very
effective when used in conjunction with an ASTAIRE.
Astaire -- A subtle toe-tap that is used to alert potential TURD BURGLARS that you are occupying a
stall. This will remove all doubt that the stall is occupied. If you hear an ASTAIRE, leave the
bathroom immediately so the pooper can poop in peace.
Watermelon -- A turd that creates a loud splash when hitting the toilet water. This is also an
embarrassing incident. If you feel a WATERMELON coming on, create a diversion. See CAMO-COUGH.
Havana Omelet -- A load of diarrhea that creates a series of loud splashes in the toilet water.
Often accompanied by an escapee. Try using a CAMO-COUGH with an ASTAIRE.
Uncle Ted -- A bathroom user who seems to linger around forever. Could spend extended lengths
of time in front of the mirror or sitting on the pot. An UNCLE TED makes it difficult to relax
while on the crapper, as you should always wait to drop your load when the bathroom is empty.
This benefits you as well as the other bathroom attendees.
Fly-by -- The act of scouting out a bathroom before pooping. Walk in, check for other poopers.
If there are others in the bathroom, leave, and come back again. Be careful not to become a
FREQUENT FLYER. People may become suspicious if they catch you constantly going into the bathroom.
Crack Whore -- A crapper that has seen more ass than a Greyhound Bus. Tell- tale signs of a CRACK WHORE
include pubes, piss stains and shit streaks. Avoid CRACK WHORES at all cost. Try finding out when the
janitor cleans each particular bathroom. Don't forget, a CRACK WHORE can become a SAFE HAVEN.
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- THE HELL OF RESTROOMS
When I was at Paradise Canyon Vacation Call Center,
we had a small bathroom next to the closet. It was nothing fancy, just a sink and a toilet,
but it got the job done. A reversible sign on the door had a red STOP and a green GO to let
you know whether or not someone was inside. Of course, our high society humor would call for
switching the sign to GO while someone was inside, and let the hilarity ensue. One day, Dave
the supervisor, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, tapped me on the shoulder
and started yelling at me for peeing on the toilet seat and floor. I hadn't even used the
bathroom yet that day, so the sloppy pisser had to have been someone else another tele marketer.
But arguing with Dave was next to impossible, so I had to spend my entire lunch break wiping the
floor with bits of toilet paper, while the other tele marketers teased me.
Needless to say, I've had a thing about public restrooms ever since. I'm not one of those guys
like that character in AMERICAN PIE who had to hold it until he went home, but I've certainly
had my share of bathroom hang-ups. For the most part, urinating in Paradise Canyon Vacation
call centre toilets was a pretty quick and uneventful experience. You could walk up to the
urinal of choice, unzip just a bit, and go on about your business with minimal interaction.
But sometimes, things didn't go so easily.
For you uninitiated women that never got to venture inside a boy's bathroom, you haven't experienced
the wonder of a wall of urinals. Sometimes as many as two on the wall would hang there, just waiting
to receive their piss offerings. Choosing the right urinal said a lot about you. In fact there were
rhymes we used to help us figure out exactly which one we wanted to pee in. One of the most common
would have you start naming them off from the left, "COFFEE, TEA, MILKSHAKE, PEE" in a sort of
piss-scented "EENIE, MEANIE, MINIE, MOE". Supposedly whatever urinal you chose was what you liked
to drink. Lord help the poor kid with a full bladder that didn't check in advance and haphazardly
chose the "PEE" urinal. "Ha! Ha! YOU LIKE DRINKING PEEEEEEEEEEEE!", was a tough insult to live down.
Most of the kids "in the know" would choose milkshake or coffee, if they had their druthers.
Another variation on the theme was to count off, "KING, QUEEN, BOOGER, and MACHINE!" This was particularly
handy if you accidentally chose the "PEE" urinal from the first rhyme, and could correct your taunting
party, "No no...I'm using MACHINE!" For obvious reasons, the "BOOGER" and "QUEEN" urinals were the ones to
avoid, but as some of the more sexually aware 5th and 6th graders would point out, if you chose "QUEEN" it
was like you were putting your dick inside of a hot babe!
The real trauma of the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms was when you had to take a shit. You
might as well have shit your pants at work for all the grief you'd get if someone walked in on you. Now,
I've sneaked into many a times in the girl’s bathroom at Paradise canyon Vacation call center in my day
(OK...last month) and I've never understood why the stalls in the girls' rooms had doors on them, but for
some reason they were removed from the boys'. What evil activities did the administration aka Noel think
were taking place in them?
Once in my 2nd hour of work, I made the mistake of taking a shit in a stall that not only had no door,
but no toilet paper either. I was stranded there for about 15 minutes before I convinced some poor co
worker to grab me some from another stall. When you need to do the famous "squat walk" at home to grab
a new roll, it's OK, but nobody would ever dare getting caught performing it during work. He held his nose
for dramatic effect, and practically threw it at me, as if I was some homeless man asking him to wipe my ass.
When I was in Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bathrooms may have been horrifying to use, but they
were actually cool to hang out in. I mean if they were good enough for Fonzie to use as his office, it
was OK for us tele marketers, right? Every once in a while, some workers would take part in the bizarre
ritual called "CRISS CROSS PEE" or "CROSSING SWORDS". While Star Wars was popular, you'd even have weirdos
pretending to be Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader with their lightsabre urine streams. There was even a
spell where some workers would try to pee on your shoe. Suddenly peeing in the stalls instead of the
urinals seemed like a much safer idea.
There were any number of pranks to pull off in the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms, and
nearly all of them involved using wet paper towels. You could wad up a stack, get them wet, then throw
them to the tiled floor and make a pretty large smack. Sinks were pretty easy to clog up and overflow
with them as well, which surely prompted the invention of faucets that turn themselves off. Of course
the greatest bathroom thrill as a worker was to pee on the "OUT OF ORDER DO NOT USE" sign that was
occasionally taped on a urinal.
The call center for Paradise canyon Vacation had retarded workers working in the same building as us.
They had their own special desks, but ate lunch in the same lunchroom, and of course used the same
bathroom. These unfortunate co workers were always getting made fun of in some kind of way. I
remember going into the bathroom and seeing this little bully tele marketer tell a retarded co worker
about twice his size to hold out his hand so he could smack it. The poor tele marketer was letting him
do it over and over again while he cried. I helped a nice co worker out when I came upon him in tears,
holding the large carved wooden key that they used for a bathroom pass, cracked in half. I told him that
the break was pretty clean and if he just laid it down fit together on the manager's desk when he got back
to work, someone else might think they broke it. When I ran into the co worker later in the week, he
thanked me as if I gave him the secret of life.
As I got older and more self conscious at Paradise canyon Vacation, my big fear was pissing next to people.
I'd really have to relax and meditate for a good minute before I could let it out. But it took perfect
concentration. I had several times where I'd be ready to pee, and some other worker would come up next to
me, preventing me from finishing. I'd stand there and pretend to pee for about a minute, and then flush it
really quick, so nobody would think I was a psycho who just liked to stand there. Since I drink more heavily
as a tele marketer, I've not found it to be much of a problem anymore. Though every now and then, even at
work, some worker walks in the bathroom with me, and chooses to pee in a stall behind a closed door.
Using bathrooms at the workplace at Paradise Canyon Vacation is an entirely different phenomenon. Where I work,
it's actually pretty well accepted to bring reading material into the john. Everything from The Sports Page of
the newspaper, to interesting stories printed off the internet are handily tucked above the toilet paper rack
for tele marketers to read. Some people are pretty uptight about it being unsanitary, but it never bothered me.
In fact, unless I've actually got a hunk of crap on my finger, I never even wash my hands along with all the
other co workers, unless someone else sees me in there, to keep up appearances. You don't want to be known as
"that guy who doesn't wash" when it's time for company potlucks even though none of the other workers washed
their hands either or never will for that fact.
The big terror of the Paradise Canyon Vacation workplace bathrooms is being identified as the worker who took
a monster size noisy smelly shit. If your shoes look anonymous enough under the stall, and nobody saw you walk
in, you're usually safe. But lord help you if another worker sees you walk out after gassing up the place with
a deathly fecal fog.
It really bugs me when co workers talk to me while I'm sitting on the toilet. I don't know why but it really
creeps the hell out of me. Not too long ago, I was taking a shit, and didn't realize there was Noel the
manager sitting in the next stall over. Noel shouted, "Hey man, I'm right here with ya!" This was kind of
freaky, as I didn't recognize the voice, and was truly weirded out by his attempt at bathroom camaraderie.
I remained silent, and slightly scared as he added, "Yep...it's a helluva day!". Not knowing what to even
say, I remained quiet as he went on and on about other nonsensical things, until I finally figured out
that the dude Noel was actually talking on his cell phone while he was taking a dump!
I mean, it's bad enough seeing people walking around stores and driving with cell phones, but who the hell
calls up their friends while they're taking a shit, at work? At this point, the evil side of me emerged,
and I groaned loudly like I just passed an elephant through my sphincter and flushed the toilet 3 times in
a row, just to make sure that whoever this Noel guy was talking to, would realize where the call was really
coming from.
And then there's the utter pandemonium of the men's room at Paradise canyon Vacation call center, where you've
got the new pitfall of puke covered toilets to avoid. In addition, brave women, sickened by the impossibly
long and slow lines in their bathroom are in there with you! And forget about washing your hands in those sinks,
there's about as much piss in those as the urinals.
Of course, once you're married and have kids, any shred of bathroom decency goes out the door. In fact, it's
as if there's no door at all. You know you've got the right woman when she can walk in and brush her teeth
while you're taking a crap, and not blink an eye.
Anyway, quit talking to me, I'm trying to pee.
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Paradise Canyon Scam
- The Knights of Paradise
By now you probably realized that a group of knights in shining armor
are trying to take down the dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation, and in so
doing making people aware what is going inside Paradise Canyon Vacation
with the inside scoop, and what really happens at the presentations,
with testimonials from people who have been scammed. The management
of Paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you the public to know, that the
membership fee is actually $10, 000 to $15, 000 with $3, 500 down non
refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years. They have tele markers
call you and swear till they are blue in the face that the presentation
is free and that you can’t buy nothing and leave your money at home.
This is all a scam the same scam used by tele solutions when selling
magazines, they will call and tell you 'I’m not calling to sell you a
nything" but then pass you on to their supervisor who will try and
scam you for over $1000 in magazines. "I’m not calling to sell you
anything”, that is because someone else will. They won’t sell you
nothing at the presentation because Paradise Canyon Vacation sales
people will come to your home. Noel the manager even brags how good
they are at ripping people off, and claims that they can get 9/10
people to fork over $10, 000. This is a scam, the tele markers should
tell the people "we are calling to sell you a $10, 000 membership” and
not lie. As for the free gifts, you don’t get those till after you
filled out forms with your information, and then wait 2-3 weeks in
the mail, from what I heard many people have told the tele marketers
that they did not receive the free gifts. Just like telesolutions who
will not send you their $5 watch so described by JD the room manager,
which they claim is a $650 diamond watch just so you will pay the
$1, 000 magazine fee. The watch arrives after 2 weeks because you only
have 10 days to cancel your credit card payment. Paradise Canyon
Vacation will also give you a $1, 000 gift voucher towards the $10, 000
to $15, 000 membership. There are too many services all around for free
and you can get the same prices and even lower and better if you just
shop around. You work too hard for your money to let travel companies
and magazine publishers rip you off.
Together we can make people more aware with knowledge and knowing is
the first part of winning any battle, we have compiled a list of
informative blogs from people who have been called, tele marketers and
members who have been scammed. Paradise canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their dragons to take down our blogs, so please help
us and spread the word, they mostly call people in British Columbia,
Alberta. Manitoba and soon trying to Scam Ontario, calls are in the
evenings. For your entertainment you can check out these pictures
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paradise-canyon.aspx
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- The Wizard of Ozzie Osbourne
Paradise Canyon Vacation has an MTS employee, from the Osbourne call centre
location in Winnipeg who calls himself Ozzie, a tall skinny black anorexic
man who is making $20 an hour, and his girlfriend $35 an hour and who bought
a new home, so he brags at the Paradise canyon Vacation Call Centre, yet he
comes to Paradise Canyon for minimum wage to rip off people for $10, 000, this
is evil greed $55 an hour between them both and he needs to come rip off
innocent people and lie to them, we believe that Noel is paying Ozzie under
the table because on several occasions we have seen Noel give Ozzie several
$20, Ozzie claims that it’s his pay and that he has no bus money to get home,
really he's making $20 an hour from MTS and his girlfriend $35 working with
x-rays and Ozzie has no bus money to get home, maybe if Ozzie wouldn't buy
so many stolen NBA and hockey jerseys from Rob, Ozzie may just have bus money
to get home. Rob has been selling stolen sports jerseys at peg all on company
time and property call centre for years, but since Ozzie has arrived business
has been booming, and what does Noel say about all this, when Noel was approached
about Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and blue ray movies, Noel
the manager said it was ok as long as employees get good prices. When MTS was
called they said that they didn't care what their employees did off company
time, and no supervisor even called back. Yet MTS wants us to give our personal
information to their employees buying stolen sports jerseys at the rate of 1 per
week. Now you know where your money goes when you pay your MTS bill it goes to
employees like Ozzie buying stolen sports jerseys so how can you trust a company
who hires shady MTS employees and people selling stolen sports jerseys, and not
to mention Loren selling his stolen Xbox, play station pc games and blue ray
movies so when you join Paradise Canyon Vacation and pay $10, 000 membership fee,
now you know where your money is going, membership does have its privileges but
only for employees of Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- they are a time share
Mikesly
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Coniston Nr Hull Now Lethbridge Alberda!!
Posts: 225
Mike and I owned a timeshare in UK - and we did a swap to paradise
canyon 9 years ago for our very first visit to canada. so yes they
are (or at least they were) a timeshare company. People buy the
houses down there then let the "club" rent them out as holiday
homes. Plus alot of the houses which are actually in the "canyon"
bottom are sinking - beware. Lesley
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- it's a time share
MuftiMixandma...
Vancouver...
Posts:7, 586
12 April 2011, 1:03
I guess it's a time share, so the proof would be in how
convenient they would make sharing a place on the dates
that you want. A quick google search of "PCV Reviews"
showed the following. Perhaps you can find more results.
If their head office is in Lethbridge here's the BBB
rating for the company:
bbb.org/calgary/business-reviews/travel-club…
Here's a slightly different one:
bbb.org/saskatchewan/business-reviews/resort…
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- We all know its timeshare
stevef955
lethbridge
posts: 4
Question: If Paradise Canyon Vacation is not a
Time Share, then why are you locked into payments
of $50 a month for the next 20 years. That"s right
you are locked into 20 years at $500 a year, that"s
like buying a family home. Membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, and you have to pay for your vacations
on top of that. How long would it take to get back
the $10, 000 in savings. A $3, 000 vacation actually
will cost you $13, 000, and are you going to vacation
every single year for the next 20 years. If this is
such a good deal why isn't Tiger Woods wife, a member
and the spokes person, she takes 2-4 vacations a month.
We don't see her giving Paradise Canyon Vacations $10, 000
to travel
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Tiger Woods to Promote Paradise Canyon Vacations &
Golf Resort
Tiger Woods to Promote Paradise Canyon Vacations &
Golf Resort, seeing how Tiger Woods is spiraling downhill with
his golf career, Tiger Woods has dropped a further six places
to 44th in the world golf rankings and he may soon have to
sell his Juniper Estate to purchase new golf clubs and a Gucci
golf bag. As the spokes person for Paradise Canyon Vacations
and Golf Resort Tiger Woods can rest assured that he can
afford to travel to all his tournaments at net prices. So the
next time you pick up your phone and the display reads
tele marketer from Paradise Canyon Vacations, and you hear a
"GROWL" big cat roar. It may just be Tiger Woods asking you to
come to a presentation and fork over $10, 000 for a membership
so he can pay for his wife Elin Nordegren child support.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Paradise Canyon to buy Tiger Wood's Juniper Estate
Tiger Woods will soon be selling his Juniper Estate to Paradise
Canyon Vacations so that it can be turned into time share. With
Tiger Woods golf career at an all time low at 44 in rankings.
Paradise canyon Vacation will be giving Tiger Woods 30% share
of membership fees, with being scammed sorry paying $10, 000 to
$15, 000 to receive nothing more than a membership, and travel
prices just as cheap or cheaper if they shopped around. That
would give Tiger Woods a good $3, 000 to $5, 000 per membership.
Could this mean that Nike and Paradise Canyon Vacation may
soon merge, will we soon be seeing PCV on sneakers along with
the Nike swoosh. The good news is that we may soon hear the
pitter patter of tiny little feet at Juniper Estate, [no Elin
is not having another cub], as families rush to move in for
their time share vacations with their little ones.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Tighter than a bull frog's arse
How cheap is Paradise Canyon Vacation, they are so cheap they
won’t give employees 8 hours a day, and bother people in the
evenings during supper. Even xentel gives employees 8 hours a
a day and the 4 hour option. Paradise canyon vacation is like
a revolving door with employees quitting every day, it is almost
as bad as tele solutions. Except at tele solutions you don't have
to work Sunday nights. Paradise canyon Vacation has no respect
for people they call, they only want their $10, 000 travel membership
fee. If they cared about people they would leave people alone on
Sunday nights. You’re supposed to bring your own paper and pencil or
pen and ruler, the company don't supply that. Workers are always
stealing pens and rulers off other workers desks, Noel don't be so
cheap and buy some pens!!! State of the art equipment, really now,
how about $5 bargain shop phones, which only 1/2 are working
properly, all calls are made by hand. Other call centers are using
computers and usb headsets. Where is the $10, 000 to $15, 000
membership fee going? Either Rod the owner or his manager Noel's
pockets, because there surely is not pens, papers, rulers or
computers with usb headsets. Don't forget the 1/4% sales bonus
incentive, oh my a whole 1/4%, how can they afford this?
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- "to be or not to be"
For Paradise Canyon Vacation tele marketers the
question really is "to work or not to work",
employees at Paradise Canyon Vacations come to work
whenever they feel it, not like the rest of us who
have to follow a schedule, take Gordon for example
Noel told him that has 2 sales, so what does he do,
doesn’t come to work the next night. The Thursday
before labor day weekend workers are told get 6 sales
and get $15 an hour, and be paid for Sunday [a bonus],
but have to show up for work Tuesday to be paid for
Monday and work the past Thursday. What a big joke the
call centre floor was almost empty, only 1 person came
in who got the bonus and that was Paul and only reason
he came in, because he was warned "shape up or ship
out". If and when people decide to come in to work, they
are on their blackberry or iphones. No one works more than
10 to 15 minutes out of the hour. Workers are more interested
texting or surfing the net. Take Ozzie an MTS employee from
Osbourne for example he makes more personal calls during work
time than he does company calls. Dave moved Ozzie to a crowded
section so he couldn’t make personal calls and Noel then goes
and puts Ozzie back in his corner so Ozzie can make more
personal calls, is this how MTS employees work? It just goes to
show how poorly managed Paradise Canyon Vacation is, now would
you pay $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a membership to such a poorly run
travel, sorry time share company.
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam
- Toilet Water Cleaner Than Fountain
Winnipeg, Manitoba A Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre employee had a hunch
something was amiss with the company's drinking fountain water. And right he was.
For the sake of his curiosity, he tested the bacteria content at four water fountains
and one toilet to challenge a ban on workers from bringing bottled water to work.
It seems some supervisors were using it to sneak in alcohol.
Guess which was cleaner? It wasn't the water fountains.
He then asked workers where they would prefer to get their water.
That wasn't the fountains, either.
The manager, supervisors and co workers said they had no idea.
Katherine the evening supervisor used Q-tips and petri dishes, swabbing the spigots of four
fountains and sampling one toilet, dunking the cotton in the bowl's center and then dragging
it around the rim for a complete sample.
She took the results to the lab put them under a light to speed up the bacteria's growth.
The petri dishes with fountain water were swarming with bacteria. The sample from the toilet was
clean, probably because the toilets are doused with cleansing chemicals daily.
"I wanted to see the looks on their faces, " Katherine said.
Either allow water bottles back, Katherine urged, or install "down- pour" systems used in office water coolers.
She took her results to the Board of Directors with an eye-opening PowerPoint presentation.
Administrators quickly replaced the spigots and casing at three of the water fountains and custodians gave them
all a thorough cleaning.
More call centres are providing water in lunch rooms now, but the ban on water bottles remains.
"It was a great lesson. We don't always see things in and about the company that are in need of repair,
" said a co worker, adding, "You'd be surprised how clean the water is in a toilet."
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- told to sling his 'ook.
Jericho
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Just to close this off (and in case anyone else gets a call from them in
the future), we had the sale guy round this evening.
Turns out that you have to put down a minimum of $3500 before you can
even use the services... which is completely in contrast to what was
explained in the presentation originally.
Suffice to say he was told to sling his 'ook.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- salesman in sheeps clothing
rnhuntington
New Member
Joined: May 2010
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2
First of all the resort itself is great and the nicest place to stay in
Lethbridge (if you ever have the need to go there), but secondly, the
program is not about Lethbridge... you get access to every resort and
hotel in the world at rediculously low prices. I've stayed in Banff for
a week for $150, Cabo San Lucas and Greece each for a week for $200. In
5 star places. you'd have to see the program presented for it to make any
sense, but it is great.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- back off salesman
Zoe Bell
bored desk monkey
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: TORONTO- yay!!!
Posts: 2, 480
So nice of you to join up and start posting just to inform us all of this,
now naff off back to whatever sales company you work for.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Too good to be true
How many times have we heard it before, "if it sounds too good to be true,
it probably is" or "Buyer Beware." Yet, people are pulled into travel scams
all the time. There are more travel scams out there at any given time than
you can imagine. Think it can't happen to you? It happens to the best.
An ongoing story is Paradise Canyon Vacations based out of Lethbridge
Alberta but their call centre is in Winnipeg Manitoba. Their tele
marketers call up unsuspecting people during supper and offer them
2 free night’s hotel stay and a free dinner for 2, to attend a 1 hour
travel presentation. They will swear its information only, you can't
buy nothing at the presentation and leave your money at home. The
bottom line is, the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000, with $3, 500
of it is the initial start up cost and $40 to $60 a month for the next
20 years. They know how to scam you and talk you into coming out to
the free presentation and only the best tele marketing scammers are
kept and tele marketers are threatened, warned and fired if they don’t
produce enough leads every night, to bring in new tele marketers they
even lie on job banks offering $15 hour for 24 hours, when it is only
$10 hour for 20 hours. They are 100% time share and work on a points
system, they give you so many days free a year [2 weeks] to stay at
one of their time share accommodations, but you’re paying $10, 000 for
the membership plus paying for the 2 weeks, all you get for $10, 000
is a membership and prices are cheaper if no better if you shop around
for free. By the way Paradise Canyon Vacation hates giving out the 2
free gifts, the owners refer to people who come to the presentation
for the gifts as roaches, then why are they offering the 2 free gifts,
then insult the people for showing up, you don’t get these gifts the same
night of the presentation, you fill out a form with all your personal
information then pray to god that they get mailed to you in 2 weeks,
if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam
Under The Table
Is Pardise canyon vacation breaking the law, Is
Noel paying Ozzie under the table. On more than
one occassion Noel has been seen giving Ozzie a
handful of $20, when ozzie was asked about the
money. He said that Noel cashed his cheque for
him and that he had no bus money to get home.
Ozzie is an Osbourne, MTS employee making $20
an hour and his girlfriend $35 an hour as an ex
ray technician, and he has no bus money to get
home? Also Noel has been seen giving Edna a
handful of $20, that is against the law to not
declare work earnings, why is Noel breaking the
law with his favorite employees. As for Ozzie
if he would stop buying stolen sports Jerseys
from Rob every week, he may have change for the
bus. Noel when appraoched said it was ok for Loren
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