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vWorker Rent A Code , vworker Did not follow there own rules of arbitration, made up rules as they went, acted inconsistantly and unproffessional none |
25th of Oct, 2011 by User674321 |
I have been working on vWorker for a bout 4 months, in that time every one of my projects has been successful, I have quickly risen to one of the highest ranked workers (rated higher than 99.5% of all there workers) and I have earned several thoulsand dollars and paid several hundred in fees. I had taken a job from a buyer and completed it in 11 days. 30 days after completing the work the buyer still had not accepted the project as complete so I put the project into arbitration. While in arbitration the buyer and I argued quite a bid and were both warned not to do so in the future. Technical Arbitration began to test if my code was correct and if I should be paid. During arbitration I noticed that the buyer had made 2 statements that were contradictory to each other. I posted a message to the arbitrator saying this. An excerpt is below: 1) FACT: On September 21s the buyer said he tested the paypal system, this was after the start of arbitration. 2) FACT: On October 3rd. he stated he stopped testing once arbitration began. 3) FACT: On October 19th, he stated he was testing after arbitration started. 4) FACT: Statements 1 and 3 agree, Statements 1,3 are contradictory to statement 2 5) FACT: Since the buyers statements contradict only one can be true, the other must be false. 6) FACT: The buyer has made a false statement. 7) FACT: The word blatant is a synonym for the word undeniable. 8) FACT: The buyer has made a blatant false statement. The arbitrators response was: "You are stating that they made false statements. If you had said that the statements were inconsistent -this would be a fact. You are arguing what you think they (the employer) were doing or what you think they (the employer) intended." He then forfeited me from the arbitration for stating an opinion in arbitration and not sticking to facts. My response: "Saying the buyer has made a false statement" does NOT argue what I think they were doing or what they intended. Had I said "The buyer is trying do deceive you" this would have been an opinion is Im stating the opinion that the buyer is trying to be deceptive, however simply saying "The buyer made a false statement" is a verifiable fact with no implication as to intent or reason." He then stated: "What you are stating is your opinion about the statements Cyrus made. Even if you believe the statements to be facts, you are phrasing this in a way to insinuate that the buyer is lying. Since you were warned previously regarding opinions, you forfeited. Rule #1 specifically states "what you think they intended"" I pointed out that he is in fact the one making an opinion by guessing what I implied or what I meant or wanted to say without saying. I reminded him that vWorkers own definition of a fact is something that can be verified, he cant verify what I wanted to imply he can only guess at it, there own definition of guessing at intent is to call it unprofessional there for the arbitrator acted unprofessional based on there own definitions. The arbitrators answer to this was to threaten to close my account. There rules dictate that if my account is closed they can keep my earnings, currently I have over $500 in balance with them, and over $3000 in projects in progress. All this would be forfit if they closed my account. Because of this I did not argue any further. SO: The net result of this arbitration was: 1) Buyer made a false statement and I forfeit arbitration for pointing it out. 2) Arbitrator makes a guess at what I meant by my wording instead of just taking them at the litteral meaning, he then uses this guess as a reason to not pay me. 3) Even after I was determined to be the one to loose the arbitration vWorker still allowed my code to be downloaded by the buyer, this is AFTER they decided I would not be paid. 4) I get paid nothing, the buyer can download my code for free. I have worked on all the freelance sites, and direct with people, in 4 years of doing this full time for my entire living the only time I have ever done work and not been paid was when I decided to do work through vWorker and ask for arbitration. I will chalk this up to the cost of doing business and intend to finish my current work on vWorker however it should be noted that there arbitration process is a pure insult. They make up rules as they go, the threaten to close your account (and possibly keep your money) many times, I have been threatened a total of 9 times with account closer in this single arbitration. These threats were the result of things like asking for a review of the decision that I lost. If I ask for the review and the person doing the review does not agree with me I loose my account (and possibly my money that they didnt yet pay out to me) If your going to work on vWorker do everything you can to avoid arbitration. |
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