| Our Love Stone |
| Our Love Stone Jewelry Scott Tischler, Scott Ryan Tischler Gets people to work for free, NEVER pays! Gilbert, Arizona |
| 26th of Aug, 2011 by User366785 |
| Scott Tischler and I went in as partners to begin a new division of his existing jewelry business. This new division was exclusively E-Commerce and everything was online. Despite being extremely friendly and enjoyable to be around prior to the company, when it came to business, Scott was a veritable nightmare to deal with. He would make excuses when asked to do the most mundane, easy tasks. My role included everything except the startup capital needed to fund the new company; I listed our products, formed relationships with our suppliers, marketed and sold our products, and dealt with all customer service tasks. I spent every waking moment working on our new company. He eventually accused me of stealing money, which I believe was a way for him to make his exit from the company (I would have preferred honest, professional courtesy). My observation is that when he wanted to end a business relationship, he would cook up a false accusation and would intimidate the individual into silence or inaction by shifting the focus off of him. Fortunately for me, I was absolutely solid in my innocence, and I saw through the manipulation. At that point, however, working with him was a thoroughly miserable enterprise and I wanted to be done with him just as much as he wanted to be done with me. Prior to the stealing accusation, he would complain constantly about the fact that we were losing money, even if we had orders coming in. He was literally incapable of taking accountability at the m ost fundamental level. When I would attempt to solve this issue in a direct yet respectful manner, he would avoid me, make excuses, or find a flaw of mine and refer to it constantly. He was a complete waste of time to work with. He will reel people in with the lure of his TV show, and will SEEM very legitimate, but it is all a smoke screen. He will attempt to get everyone he does business with to work for free. He will make people sign Non-Compete/Non-Disclosure agreements, but will make excuses when asked to sign Partnership Agreements and will sprocrastinate indefinitely. It is a shame, because he is charismatic and smart enough to be successful. Although he made a big show of being a hard worker, he rarely followed through and his temper would flare when confronted about that issue. My philosophy is that success and respect are earned, and I was willing to do the "grunt work" necessary to obtain these things. My overall impression was the Scott believed he was above such menial tasks, which coincidentally included virtually everything when it came to our business. Oh, and one final note about the accusation: He made the accusation without even logging into our online accounts and verifying that any money was actually missing, which it obviously wasn't! This illustrates the extent of his inability to take necessary actions to solve problems or put his fears to rest. Scott Ryan Tischler, in my opinion, is largely unaware that he is the cause of his lack of business success. He seems to lack empathy, and thus cannot comprehend the frustration and pain that he leaves in his wake of those unfortunate enough to cross his path. His ability to place blame on other people is without equal; I've never seen such manipulative skill and cunning. Run, don't walk, from Scott Ryan Tischler. |
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| I've seen this name on several occasions within this business... and other oil, diamond so-called investments. A first class crook for sure. Sorry to hear of your particular experience. |
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| I have had nothing but great thing from Scott. I bought my ring from him and used to work for him in Virginia. I found him to be nothing other than honest and upstanding. What is your name if you are so upset about him? If you are not brave enough to post your name then you are probably the problem. Bill E. |
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| Bill E... I disagree, he's a complete scam artist. He's got a public record to prove that |
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| I work for Our Love Stone and I have had a great experience until Kate Price hacked my paypal and my personal bank account. I'm so happy Key Bank has Fraud protection from people like her. She posed as a part owner/ CEO and founder of Our Love Stone and was never any one of those. KATE PRICE is a known thief and still has herself advertised as CEO and cofounder of this company which existed way before she came along. By the way, she still has not returned all the jewelry she stole from the company and I can't wait to see her behind bars. Disgruntled 1099 employees are such a headache, especially the one who wrote this complaint. I love "Our Love Stone" I have seen Scott Tischler change lives with his service and generosity. It's too bad he tried to help someone like Kate Price, she doesn't deserve to have wonderful encouraging and such a positive mentor like Scott in her life. She's mean, lying, vindictive and a thief. I love this company and have been with it since day one. |
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| All you have to do is Google his name. Crook, fraud and all around low life. |
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| He stole my sister and her fiancées money and never produced a ring for them. They were supposed to get married in August but had to pushed back the wedding due to the ring jot being completed. Surprise surprise he still didn't have it completed by August and their new wedding date was set for November so they asked for their money back. Its now the middle of September and he's barely paid any of it back. They have 2 children and cannot afford to buy a new ring until Scott gives them a full refund. He's a liar, a cheat and he destroys dreams. The only reason Taren is even defending him is because she is his girlfriend and also will go down for the scam that his company is. |
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| whoa -- you guys think you have problems with scott ryan tischler... me ?? i have known the man for 10 years. i knew him in richmond virginia, i knew him when he left for arizona -- i have always known him. but i do not do business with him -- he was my lover (he pretends to be pure LDS, but Scott and i had lots of wild sex). he would text me, email me, call me and come by his house with my daughter for sex (she stayed in the living room and we would have sex in my bedroom) and then he would pray for my soul and tell me that we did not have sex. he is crazy. he stalked me for many years, i am so afraid of him coming to my house (he knows exactly where i live). he lies, everything out of his mouth is a lie. i finally had to write a very long email to his parents explaining to them that their son scared me, threatened me and that he he believed his own lies. i then attached LOTS of naked photos of scott tischler to the email and sent the nude pics to his parents. |
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| I know Scott Never stone anyone's "money" I do the accounting for our love stone and Nathan Barcy and Malia Olstrom were delinquent customers. Scott advised them he would be refunding their money because of their constant lies and inability to make any timely payments. We also have an email from Nathan calling his future "Finance'" the nastiest names in the book. Maybe I should ask Mr. Tischler to publish the letters and what he said about his future "Wife" |
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| Mister Waddell? I thought you were Scott's "fake" attorney! He said you were his lawyer and then we found out that you dont even have a license to practice. Classic! Now you do his books?! And Scott never owed anyone money? Bull. Im still waiting for my refund and its been 3 months! I met Kate Price through Our Love Stone at the Phoenix Bridal Expo. She worked for him and im pretty sure has a just reason to be angry at him. Just to set the record straight. We were NEVER delinquent on a payment we paid our down payment and from our understanding we were not supposed to make another payment until the ring was finished (4-6 weeks later) then when we asked about the ring being done scott says that because we didn't make our payment it had never been started. That was NEVER in the contract. The contact said we had a year to pay off the ring before we got charged interest. We then apologized for the miscommunication and paid the "late" payment (was only 2 weeks late if even that) and made another payment I believe a week of two later. Then Scott repeatedly said the ring was "looking beautiful" and "almost done". By the time it was over a month past due we began to wonder and surprised surprise it hadn't even been started. Please Mister Waddell give me a legit address to send paperwork to Scott so we can go to court. Id LOVE to resolve this and get back the money you stole from us. PS I know Nathan never wrote anything horrible about me to you. He doesn't talk badly about me to anyone, least of all the deadbeat making our engagement ring. Its so funny that that you would never try to say that! So pathetic. OH AND SCOTT SAID HE'D BE REFUNDING US?! WHERE IS OUR REFUND THEN?! Another lie? Shame on you. |
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Amazing! Scott, your lies and scams are catching up to you!
I think it's about time to hide and change your name buddy. |
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Missb - I am LMAO!! that is classic.
Malia is right on the money, channel 3 did a story on this low life. See here:
http://www.azfamily.com/news/consumer/Valley-couple-never-gets-custom-made-wedding-ring-130443208.html |
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Just some links about Scott Ryan Tischler
http://rightsforinvestors.com/blog/2010/02/24/tischler-scott-ryan/
http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-report/our-love-stone-our-love-stone-jewelry-scott-tischler-scott-ryan-tischler-c46824.html
http://nvsos.gov/index.aspx?recordid=65&page=33
http://www.nnbw.com/ArticleRead.aspx?storyID=13823
http://images.edocket.azcc.gov/docketpdf/0000126094.pdf
http://www.azfamily.com/news/consumer/Valley-couple-never-gets-custom-made-wedding-ring-130443208.html |
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oh wow. this is getting pretty intense. I was the author of the original post and hadn't checked back for a while. I'm glad I posted that-a lot of good has come of it.
not sure about anyone else, but it's comforting to know that I'm not the only one who's been screwed over by him. it's also a bummer because I totally believed him about everyone he's talked negatively about.
@sada-that list of links is great-thank you for posting sada.
@M Ostrom-way to get press coverage for this story. i respect the hell out of you standing up for yourself that way.
has anyone seen this one?
http://cheaterville.com/?page=cheaters&id=7989&sid=12780
i'm pretty sure it was by T. Burke, Scott's ex-girlfriend...that sucks. i'm glad my issues with him weren't personal, for what it's worth. I'm positive it wasn't as bad as the majority of people who come in contact with him. I was lucky as hell, and I'm truly sorry for everyone else's pain as a result of his presence. |
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I also think it's interesting that Scott hasn't posted on here yet, but he knows about my postings. He accidentally invited me to follow him on Twitter, and this is the resulting conversation between me and Scott:
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Scott Tischler [email protected] to me
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Twitter just emailed all my old contacts. It was by accident, I did not intend to contact you. Good luck in life Kate.
Forwarded conversation
Subject: mistake
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From: Scott Tischler <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM
To: kate <[email protected]>
Twitter just emailed all my old contacts. It was by accident, I did not intend to contact you. Good luck in life Kate.
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From: Kate Price <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:39 PM
To: Scott Tischler <[email protected]>
I figured as much and it's all good. No hard feelings. Good luck to you too.
Sent from my iPhone
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From: Scott Tischler <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:34 PM
To: Kate Price <[email protected]>
I thought so too, except all the negative stuff you decided to write about me on the internet :( Oh well…I wish you luck in your newest of endeavors…..
From: Kate Price <[email protected]>
To: Scott Tischler <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: mistake
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From: Kate Price <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:23 PM
To: Scott Tischler <[email protected]>
I don't think the fact that I have no hard feelings towards you excludes the fact that I think you should be more accountable, for your own sake. I honestly think you're talented; I'm almost positive that you are largely unaware of your blind spots that hinder your progress. That said, I wrote those things on the internet knowing there was a high likelihood of you finding it, and I tried to write it as if I was talking directly to you. At the time, I was blind-sided by the fact that you blocked me on facebook (as juvenile as that is). I thought we'd parted ways as good friends who at least had the balls to do something that most people just talk about, even if it wasn't successful in the end. The combination of this, the false accusations, the threats to take legal action against me, the sudden reversal on the veracity of our partnership, and the utter lack of gratitude for my copious hard work was, in my opinion, gratuitously acerbic, and damaging to any goodwill that remained between us. Most of all, that behavior was totally beneath what I knew to be your character, and to this day I'm disappointed by your choices because I know you're capable of more than that. That last sentence is really important, so if you're defensive and huffy, just re-read it until you get a sense of the respect I have for you.
(I ELIMINATED SOMETHING I WROTE HERE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH INFORMATION I DIVULGED TO SCOTT AS A FRIEND THAT I'D RATHER NOT BE PUBLIC. IT'S NOTHING RELATED TO SCOTT).
Now that I've cleared that up, back to the Internet postings and why they're really not as severe as they seem. Here's the thing: I worked 90-hour weeks for 3 months without pay, I did not steal from you but got falsely accused anyways, and I dealt with a plethora of similarly frustrating and discouraging situations of your making.
So, if you have some negative postings on the Internet, count yourself lucky in a way. Think of it like this: You repeatedly told me I was very smart. You wouldn't have gone into business with me if I wasn't, right? Of course not. Working with anyone as a partner for 3-4 months will yield insights into their personality and character in any situation, albeit subjective conclusions. Nonetheless, you have an opportunity-an uncomfortable and unpleasant opportunity, in all likelihood-to see yourself:
not as you'd like to,
not as you see yourself,
not as you hoped you'd be seen-
but in the brutally honest opinion of one person whose opinions you once respected and listened to. It is not THE truth, but it IS the truth for me. If it nags at you, then there's probably some truth to it, but if it doesn't fit for you, leave it. What you should do, in my "subjective-truth-take-it-or-leave-it: opinion, is sack up, get out of your own way, and go make fucking bank with your inherent gifts. Seriously. I'd love to see you prove my postings wrong one day, because it's always cool to see people do something courageous instead of cop out and whine.
I'd also appreciate a genuine, heartfelt apology and proving my postings WRONG begins with that. You're not above it-you're a person, and it doesn't matter what people have DONE, it matters what they DO. You accused me of stealing when I'd been working my balls off for months-for FREE, and you didn't even login to our accounts before you made the accusation to ascertain if any money was missing! I would have preferred that you’d stopped and thought about how insulting that’d be if you were wrong, and done some basic accounting to verify that you had any reason at all to be upset with me. I couldn’t believe that you’d accused me without even logging into our accounts, honestly. I was truly shocked.
Then, our partnership. First off, you should know that your preference for not signing things is extremely unwise on your part, from a professional standpoint. From a personal standpoint, I was extremely on edge and anxious about our lack of an agreement the whole time. You probably don’t realize how menacing it feels for people to not have signed documentation-maybe it’s because I’m a lawyer’s daughter, but still. It’ll bite you in the ass because it’s extremely demotivating for people-you’ll build more loyalty and people will work harder if you take better care of the legal documentation.
And, furthermore, our lack of a partnership agreement didn’t even matter-our fondness for digital communication media yielded what I understood to be ironclad proof of our agreement. Beginning in early May, there are literally dozens of emails and texts about our partnership-calling each other “partner”, talking about future plans for the company, discussing the partnership agreement, talking about joint bank accounts for our partnership, and so on.
OUR. PARTNERSHIP.
Towards the end, I think you were afraid I'd try to make a fuss if you were just up front about wanting out. I would've been disappointed no matter what, because I was truly passionate about OUR company, but I would’ve appreciated your position as well. Instead, you pretended that we never were partners when I didn’t want to give you logins to give to some random SEO people. My reasoning was as follows:
-You would talk at great length, even when we had more important things to discuss about LDSR, about how [DELETED TO PROTECT THE REPUTATIONS OF PEOPLE WHOM SCOTT MALIGNED, I BASICALLY JUST GAVE EXAMPLES OF HOW INCOMPETENT SCOTT HAD MADE EVERYONE SEEM]
- Given that information, I naturally concluded that you (inadvertently) chose incompetent, unreliable people to do business with, so I needed to be an extra barrier of judgment to ensure OUR company was safe and in good hands.
-It was also clear to me that you were the company figurehead who needed to schmooze and connect with people-therefore, an affable, lighthearted approach was important for you to have with potential clients/investors/whatever. By handling behind-the-scenes tasks that sometimes included being a hardass and obtaining people’s credentials, it would have empowered you to focus on doing what you were more skilled at anyways. Instead, you told me I wasn’t your partner, I never had been, and blah blah.
To me, your denial of our partnership was particularly hurtful because you knew I wouldn't have continued on if I was JUST an employee. I gave the whole thing a new name and even designed the goddamn logo, and then WORKED 100 HOUR WEEKS FOR THE NEXT 3 MONTHS! And you were encouraging and stoked about all of it. It's such bullshit to say that we weren’t partners!!
I’m sure you can understand how degrading that felt to me, given what I put into that. While it obviously was cathartic to have attorneys assure me that, yes, our partnership was totally legal and recognized in the eyes of the law, it was more of a personal thing. You knew how much it meant to me that we were partners. You went for the jugular with no shame by saying we weren't fucking partners.
I don't care if you take a day or a year to apologize. I don't care if you call, email, or send it via Morse code. I don’t care if it’s 3 sentences, 3 paragraphs, or 3 3-ring binders full of remorse. I just want you to acknowledge your mistakes as my one-time friend who I did business with, and I want you to do your part to repair the damage you did. If you're not sorry, I accept that-I obviously haven't held my breath or anything, and I’ll live. If or when you're ready, know that it'd mean a great deal to me, and you'd be shocked at how cool I'd be about it. Again, my observation was that you have blind spots that you don't appear to be aware of, but that's hardly a hanging offense, in my opinion. No matter what you choose to do, I will always think of you as being a fundamentally kind-hearted person who wasn't entirely aware of how hurtful he was being. I don't harbor ill will or hard feelings towards you-I've fucked up way worse than this, life is too precious to waste/grudges are for weak silly people, and I'll probably end up being cool with you one day. That's just kinda how things usually turn out, but maybe not. The future isn’t real yet.
More than anything, I want to say thank you. Even if it wasn’t successful and we’re not exactly cool with each other, the experience with LDSR was definitive confirmation that I was born to be an entrepreneur. In a very tangible way, I found exactly what I was looking for in life, and I’m truly happy now that I’ve found what I love doing. I’d prefer to say this in a more personal setting, but you really did change my life for the better just by having a measure of confidence in me. It taught me so many wonderful things, and I’m a better person having had these experiences.
If this comes off as pompous or boastful, that's not at all how I meant it. And also, if I were in your shoes, I’d be pissed if I thought someone was using what I’d taught him or her, but I assure you that absolutely everything I’m using for my new company is what I taught myself over the summer with LDSR. I know the legality is voided as far as the NCND, but I just thought I’d mention that as a gesture of goodwill. I feel like you'd get a kick out of it, so I’ll tell you about my new company:
[ELIMINATED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO USE THIS TO MARKET MY COMPANY. THAT'S TACKY AND LAME]. |
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| I would like to retract everything I said about Scott Tischler and Our Lover. My "fiance" just admit that he did NOT pay his 2nd or 3rd bill due on my engagement ring because he lost his job and has no money. Nathan Barcy is a big fat liar. I am crushed and I am so very sorry about what we have done to Scott Tischler and Our Love Stone. He has been very professinal with us and yet we got very emotional because of other issues in our relationship. I even read an email in Nathan Barcy's email stating to stop the ring production before our 2nd bill was due and he also admit in writing he and I broke up and he realizes he looses his deposit. This has been a very bad experience butr it is not Scott's fault. He was very patient and kind enough to help finance us when no one else would. I am so sorry Scott Tischler for everything we have done. Everyone else whom has added flames to this fire, really owe him an apology. He is an excellet guy in my book. The Kate Price chick that keeps posting is completely delusional. She contradicts herself all over the internet. She claims to be CEO on Linkin and all she is, is a washed up wannabe model. I've seen her websites. Shes a vindictive person. Once again I apologize for my actions. |
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| I HAVE BEEN FRAUDULENTLY PLACING ADS ONLINE ABOUT THIS COMANY BECAUSE I AM TRULY IN LOVE AND OBSESSED WITH SCOTT TISCHLER. I THOUGHT HE WOULD FALL IN LOVE WITH ME, BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT HE WAS TAKEN I DID SOME REALLY BAD STUFF. I POSTED SEVERAL ARTICLES ONLINE LYING ABOUT HIM DEFRAUDING ME. I AM SO SORRY AND MY PSYCHIATRIST HAS TOLD ME I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED. I PROMISE I WILL POAY BACKK ALL THE MONEY I OWE TO THE COMPANY OURLOVE STONE. I WAS NEVER A CEO. I WAS NEVER A FOUNDER. I HAVE BI-POLAR AND BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER...SO I DO REALLY AWFUL THINGS SOMETIMES. I EVEN HAVE "HACKING" AS A FAVORITE THING TO DO, ONE OF MY HOBBIES ONLINE. I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL. I KNOW I STOLE MONEY FROM THE COMPANY AND CAUSED PEOPLE'S JEWELRY ORDERS TO BE DELAYED. I AM VERY SORRY OURLOVESTONE AND SCOTT TISCHLER. YOU ARE A GREAT BUSINESS MAN AND IF I HAD THE MONEY IO WOULD REMOVE THIS WHOLE THING. |
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| One more thing...I am sorry T.Burke for making that thing up on cheaterville and for stealing out of your Paypal and Keybank. |
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| "Iloveoldpeople" and "User3667856" are Scott Ryan Tischler. Overly obvious! |
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Thank you, TruthWillOut. It IS overly obvious.
I'm Kate Price and I stand by everything I said.
Every single thing Scott said, as User3667856, is unequivocally false. If anyone needs irrefutable proof that I never stole, co-founded the company Scott and I started, and am an extremely mentally healthy person who doesn't even see a psychiatrist or take medication, I can supply it at the drop of a hat.
The other claims are so ludicrous they need no explanation. They're false-simple as that. For the record, I AM CEO of a new company. I never wanted to be a model, I just happened to be quite successful at it and made a living off of it for a while. I opted out of medical school and have now co-founded 3 companies in 2011 alone. The idea that I would need to make myself look more successful is, again, a figment of Scott's cognitive dissonance. Google that last phrase and I dare you to tell me I'm wrong.
Scott, if you're going to impersonate me, at least get the grammar correct. Anyone who is remotely familiar with me and my style of communication knows that I would never post in all caps or use such pathetic grammar.
I refuse to take this down. Scott is used to destroying people's credibility and it's about time someone was brave enough to not give in. I have nothing to hide.
Scott Ryan Tischler is what it would look like if Napolean Dynamite had an evil twin.
His incompetence, malice, and lack of accountability is truly staggering. |
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