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| TNT Robert Howard tried to scam me for an Apartment using TNT mail service to send keys Providence, Rhode Island |
| 6th of Apr, 2011 by User364505 |
I found this apartment listing on Hotpads.com for an apartment at 63 hope street in providence RI. I contacted him and got these messages back. They seemed kind of sketchy, but then I found the report on this website for an apartment scam using the TNT company to send keys and a contract and I knew it had to be a scam. Barely answered my questions. Hello, I hope this email finds you well. The apartment is located at 63 Hope Street, unit 2, Providence - RI. It has 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room at $735 per month (below market value) in return for taking good care of the place. I am looking for someone who will be careful and thoughtful to live in it, as soon as possible, because I have recently suffered a divorced and I will move back home in Cambridge, England. The lease can be for a minimum 3 months. I'm the full right owner of the apartment and the utilities aren't included in this price (rent/month), utilities are about $40.00-$60.00/month. Everything in this apt is functional because is recently renovated.
Just to mention a few, it includes: (refrigerator, washer/dryer and most important a parking place.). I would also like to know how many persons will occupy the apartment and for how long would like to sign the rent contract. (any pets? cats or dogs?). Unfortunately I, have the keys no one else have access in the apartment because it is a private property. Thank you for your interest and wait news from you. Hello, Thank you for your response. Like I have informed you before, the price you have to pay for one month of rent will be $735. We can start with a basic 1 year contract with the possibility of renewing it or with the period of time suitable for you. About the payment, I would like to receive it monthly into my bank account and I hope there will be no problem for you to wire the money to it. You only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check out the apt, and see if you like it.
Since I'm Cambridge we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are asking for. I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely that will allow you to pay for the rent only after you will receive the keys and rental contract, you can receive them in less than 2 days. The solution is provided by a third party company called TNT Global Air Express which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, and will handle the payment and delivery of the Keys.
Through this service you will see the apt and decide if you like it or not, before sending the payment. Please click on the link bellow to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the web site of the company where this procedure is explained: http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/special_services/international_time_critical_services.html If you don't see the link, or if you click on the link and it appears broken, please copy and paste the URL into a new browser window. Hello again, If you are ready to proceed with this transaction I will explain you step by step how this process will work and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to the Escrow Service TNT the first month of rent $735 so they can proceed with the shipping. I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. 1 - To start the process first of all I need is your full shipping info.
2 - I will go at TNT to deposit the keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
3 - TNT will check the envelope to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership.
4 - TNT will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody and that I am the real owner of the apartment I am renting, in which you will also have all the instructions to complete the Western Union transfer to the TNT Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to go to a Western Union Location and make a money deposit on the TNT Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the transfer information to TNT (not to me).
7 - TNT will verify the payment information and if everything is in order they will proceed with the delivery of the keys and the contract.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 2 days you must contact TNT to inform them if you keep the apt or not. If all is in order you will instruct TNT to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment you can ask for a full refund and you will send back the keys and contract. Also pay the Western Union transfer fees from the total amount you need to deposit and send the rest in balance. Let me know if we can do this and e-mail me all your full name and shipping info so we can proceed with this deal.
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Had similar situation with apartment in Toronto. Exact same email just different name and location:
Hello,
I hope this email finds you well. The apartment is located at 763 Bay St, Toronto, ON M5G 2R3. It has 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room at $838 per month (below market value) in return for taking good care of the place. I am looking for someone who will be careful and thoughtful to live in it, as soon as possible, because I have recently suffered a divorced and I will move back home in Cambridge, England. The lease can be for a minimum 3 months. I'm the full right owner of the apartment and the utilities are included in this price (rent/month). Everything in this apt is functional because is recently renovated.
Just to mention a few, it includes: (refrigerator, washer/dryer and most important a parking place.). I would also like to know how many persons will occupy the apartment and for how long would like to sign the rent contract. (any pets? cats or dogs?). Unfortunately I, have the keys no one else have access in the apartment because it is aprivate property.
Thank you for your interest and wait news from you.
Second email:
Hello Emily,
Thank you for your response. Like I have informed you before, the price you have to pay for one month of rent will be $838. We can start with a basic 1 year contract with the possibility of renewing it or with the period of time suitable for you. About the payment, I would like to receive it monthly into my bank account and I hope there will be no problem for you to wire the money to it. You only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check out the apt, and see if you like it.
Since I'm Cambridge we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are asking for. I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely that will allow you to pay for the rent only after you will receive the keys and rental contract, you can receive them in less than 2 days. The solution is provided by a third party company called TNT Global Air Express which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, and will handle the payment and delivery of the Keys.
Through this service you will see the apt and decide if you like it or not, before sending the payment. Please click on the link bellow to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the web site of the company where this procedure is explained:
http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/special_services/international_time_critical_services.html
If you don't see the link, or if you click on the link and it appears broken, please copy and paste the URL into a new browser window.
When I asked for the apartment number:
I had bad experiences with a renter in the past, giving him the apartment number and he broke in the apartment ... do not want that to happen again ... that is for my own protection ... |
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I am sad to say that I almost went with it until my friends told me to check the title deed to see who owed the place. that got me thinking about it being a scam...This is the exact replica of the first post except name is Rick Young...
I hope this email finds you well. The apartment is located at 2071 Baseline Rd, Ottawa, ON K2C 0C7, Canada. It has 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room at $720 per month (below market value) in return for taking good care of the place. I am looking for someone who will be careful and thoughtful to live in it, as soon as possible, because I have recently suffered a divorced and I will move back home in Cambridge, England. The lease can be for a minimum 3 months. I'm the full right owner of the apartment and the utilities are included in this price (rent/month). Everything in this apt is functional because is recently renovated.
Just to mention a few, it includes: (refrigerator, washer/dryer and most important a parking place.). I would also like to know how many persons will occupy the apartment and for how long would like to sign the rent contract. (any pets? cats or dogs?). Unfortunately I, have the keys no one else have access in the apartment because it is a private property.
Thank you for your interest and wait news from you.
Second email sent by him:
Thank you for your response. Like I have informed you before, the price you have to pay for one month of rent will be $720. We can start with a basic 1 year contract with the possibility of renewing it or with the period of time suitable for you. About the payment, I would like to receive it monthly into my bank account and I hope there will be no problem for you to wire the money to it. You only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check out the apt, and see if you like it.
Since I'm Cambridge we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are asking for. I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely that will allow you to pay for the rent only after you will receive the keys and rental contract, you can receive them in less than 2 days. The solution is provided by a third party company called TNT Global Air Express which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, and will handle the payment and delivery of the Keys.
Through this service you will see the apt and decide if you like it or not, before sending the payment. Please click on the link bellow to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the web site of the company where this procedure is explained:
http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/special_services/international_time_critical_services.html
If you don't see the link, or if you click on the link and it appears broken, please copy and paste the URL into a new browser window.
Third email:
Hello again,
If you are ready to proceed with this transaction I will explain you step by step how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to the Escrow Service TNT the first month of rent $720 so they can proceed with the shipping. I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away.
1 - To start the process first of all I need is your full name and shipping info.
2 - I will go at TNT to deposit the keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
3 - TNT will check the envelope to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership.
4 - TNT will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody and that I am the real owner of the apartment I am renting, in which you will also have all the instructions to complete the Western Union transfer to the TNT Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to go to a Western Union Location and make a money deposit on the TNT Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the transfer information to TNT (not to me).
7 - TNT will verify the payment information and if everything is in order they will proceed with the delivery of the keys and the contract.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 2 days you must contact TNT to inform them if you keep the apt or not. If all is in order you will instruct TNT to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment you can ask for a full refund and you will send back the keys and contract. Also pay the Western Union transfer fees from the total amount you need to deposit and send the rest in balance.
Let me know if we can do this.
Happy that I thought to do home work!!! |
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Had the exact same emails when I inquired about renting a condo in Mississauga Ontario on kijiji, different name and location. These are the emails we exchanged:
My name is Stacey Richards, I'm 39 years old and I hope this email finds you well. The apartment is located at 388 Prince of Whales Drive, Mississauga, ON L5B 0A1. It has 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room at $880 per month (below market value) in return for taking good care of the place. I am looking for someone who will be careful and thoughtful to live in it, as soon as possible, because I have recently suffered a divorced and I will move back home in Oxford, England. The lease can be for a minimum 1 month to 6 years or more. I'm the full right owner of the apartment and the utilities are included in this price (rent/month). Everything in this apt is functional because is recently renovated.
Just to mention a few, it includes: (refrigerator, washer/dryer and most important 2 parking spaces.). I would also like to know how many persons will occupy the apartment and for how long would like to sign the rent contract. (any pets? cats or dogs?). Unfortunately I, have the keys no one else have access in the apartment because it is a private property.
Thank you for your interest and wait news from you.
Replied to Stacey:
Stacey,
Are you still here or are you aready in England? If you are still in Canada when would I be able to view this apartment?
Please let me know.
Thank you
Email sent back:
Thank you for your response. Like I have informed you before, the price you have to pay for one month of rent will be $880. We can start with a basic 1 year contract with the possibility of renewing it or with the period of time suitable for you. About the payment, I would like to receive it monthly into my bank account and I hope there will be no problem for you to wire the money to it. You only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check out the apt, and see if you like it.
Since I'm Oxford we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are asking for. I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely that will allow you to pay for the rent only after you will receive the keys and rental contract, you can receive them in less than 2 days. The solution is provided by a third party company called TNT Global Air Express which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, and will handle the payment and delivery of the Keys.
Through this service you will see the apt and decide if you like it or not, before sending the payment. Please click on the link bellow to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the web site of the company where this procedure is explained:
http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/special_services/international_time_critical_services.html
If you don't see the link, or if you click on the link and it appears broken, please copy and paste the URL into a new browser window.
Did this and found the web site for the delivery service and no where on the web site does it say that they provide any service for this type of transaction.
Emailed Stacey back with an alternative solution:
Stacey,
I would perfer to do this in person, but since that isn't possible, would it be possible for my best friends daughter, she is in London, to be able to meet with you to receive the keys, etc.? I know the building, my best friend lives on Webb Drive.
Please let me know
This email was her reply:
If you are ready to proceed with this transaction I will explain you step by step how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to the Escrow Service TNT the first month of rent $880 so they can proceed with the shipping. I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away.
1 - To start the process first of all I need is your full name and shipping info.
2 - I will go at TNT to deposit the keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
3 - TNT will check the envelope to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership.
4 - TNT will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody and that I am the real owner of the apartment I am renting, in which you will also have all the instructions to complete the Western Union transfer to the TNT Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to go to a Western Union Location and make a money deposit on the TNT Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the transfer information to TNT (not to me).
7 - TNT will verify the payment information and if everything is in order they will proceed with the delivery of the keys and the contract.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 2 days you must contact TNT to inform them if you keep the apt or not. If all is in order you will instruct TNT to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment you can ask for a full refund and you will send back the keys and contract. Also pay the Western Union transfer fees from the total amount you need to deposit and send the rest in balance.
Let me know if we can do this.
Huge scam!! |
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Message body
Hello,
My name is Stacey Richards, I'm 39 years old and I hope this email finds you well. The apartment is located at 388 Prince of Whales Drive, Mississauga, ON L5B 0A1. It has 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room at $880 per month (below market value) in return for taking good care of the place. I am looking for someone who will be careful and thoughtful to live in it, as soon as possible, because I have recently suffered a divorced and I will move back home in Oxford, England. The lease can be for a minimum 1 month to 6 years or more. I'm the full right owner of the apartment and the utilities are included in this price (rent/month). Everything in this apt is functional because is recently renovated.
Just to mention a few, it includes: (refrigerator, washer/dryer and most important 2 parking spaces.). I would also like to know how many persons will occupy the apartment and for how long would like to sign the rent contract. (any pets? cats or dogs?). Unfortunately I, have the keys no one else have access in the apartment because it is a private property.
Thank you for your interest and wait news from you. |
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HI,
I recently found this scam in Columbus Ohio. Did anyone open the link in the browser and get a virus or anything?
When I opened the link it asked me to accept cookies? I did not hit the accept button but I worry if this is a virus or if my computer is ok?
Thanks! |
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Situation with apartment in Groningen
First e-mail:
Hello,
Thanks for your interest. The apartment is still available.
There is no other persons in the house, so you will not have to share the apartment. The registration is allowed.
The apartment has the following facilities:Wireless internet facilities, Phone, Microwave, washing machine, Dryer, Refrigerator, bathroom toilet, lounge/living room, kitchen, utility room.
My name is Rabi Alonso, i live in United Kingdom, i have a lovely wife Christine and 25 year old daughter, Lisa. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandfather.I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Netherlands, but now she's back in UK permanently so nobody is there to take care about renting it, so I will just send you the keys and contract using a Estate Delivery Company. They will act as a third party in our transaction.
I hope it's OK with you, since this is the only reliable option.
If you are still interested to rent my apartment just answer me and i will give you more details .
Thank you and hope to hear back from you.
Second e-mail :
Hello,
Thank you for answer me so fast.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you (Your name, address, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc.). You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
The price for one month of rent is € 350 including all the utilities costs.
Of course I would need one warranty month as well of € 350, which you would get back when you will leave the apartment(you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). .
Since I am unable to come to Netherlands personally we will have to use a company called TNT which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. Please click on the link bellow to the TNT website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/express_delivery.html
So in your next email please provide me more information about yourself and i will reply with the TNT full procedure. I hope to be my perfect tenant and I think we can conclude this negotiation in a short time.
Regards from me and my wife,
Third e-mail:
Hi,
After analyzing all the applications together with my wife, we decided that you would be suitable to rent our apartment.
I want to inform you that TNT will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense.
I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to TNT Agency 1 month of rent + 1 month of warranty ( 350 € + 350 € = 700 € ) so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract.
Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:
1 - To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address to proceed with this deal .
2 - I go to the TNT Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
3 - TNT will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys.
4 - TNT will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money transfer deposit on the TNT agent name assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to TNT (Reference Number, sender's name and address)
7 - TNT will verify the payment information and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you .
8 - After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct TNT to release the funds to me.
Along the keys and the contract, you will also receive a copy of my ID and a copy of the apartment documents that will show that i'm the legit owner of the apartment.
I will pay TNT Service for the shipping and you will for the Money Transfer fees.
Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the TNT delivery.
Best greetings!
Fucking Scam ! |
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Fourth e-mail :
Hello,
I have great news for you.I found a TNT office two street distance from my home.
I just came back from TNT office.You can say from this moment that you are my official tenant . I gave them the keys, the signed rental contract, a copy of my ID, and a copy after the title of ownership.
They said they will send you a notification via email with details about payment and delivery.
As soon as your payment will be verified, TNT will come and they will deliver the keys to you.The delivery will take 2 days. Also they will help you to inspect my apartment and sign the contract.
Please check all your folders of your email (Inbox, bulk, spam) because the TNT agent told me that they already sent you the transaction rental invoice.
So, If you have a chance to arrange everything today, that will be great.
I am looking forward to your reply.
Have a nice day! |
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