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Terry Whin-Yates Mr Locksmith, Consumer Scams, Education Scams and Business Scams Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
15th of Apr, 2011 by User346949
This is a warning to consumers about an on-going locksmith scam in the lower mainland. Terry Whin-Yates, Royce Whin-Yates and family have been taking advantage of people in need and taking their money. Others associated with this scam are Michael Lee and Jackie Wu as he targets Chinese as he believes they are less likely to complain. Also associated with the scam is Ken Lapp owner of the web spam company Standard Marketing who develops spam websites contrary to Google's terms and conditions to fool web searchers. Jenny Wu of Wu Financial is also an associate of this group. You can see pictures of these individuals on the sites listed below. The References at the bottom of this post detail his reputation on various site on the internet where former customers have complained etc. Here is list of their Websites: http://www.mrlocksmith.com/
http://www.mrlocksmithburnaby.com/
http://www.mrlocksmithrichmond.com/
http://www.automotivelocksmiths.com/
http://www.mrprolock.com/
http://www.standardmarketing.ca/ The Scam (actually Scams) of Terry Whin-Yates: 1. Locksmith Services scam: Terry Whin-Yates runs a locksmith service that sells false locksmith services. He advises on techniques such as: 1. Low biding, high billing
2. Unnecessary drilling and replacing applying additional charges
3. Up-selling unnecessary services and unqualified security advice to increases the sale He teaches these techniques to those who buy into his business plan. He uses the following individuals in this service: Terry Whin-Yates, himself
Royce Whin-Yates, his son who does the Automotive work
Brian Whin-Yates, his son
Michael Lee, who bought into the scam and works out of East Vancouver
Jackie Wu, who bought into the scam and works out of Richmond 2. Internet Spam and dishonest advertising: He uses an internet spam company called Standard Marketing run by Ken Lapp, and against the terms of service of these sites he practices the following "black-hat" techniques or tricks to fool internet browsers: Keyword stuffing, writing unreadable material to fool search engines into judging
Duplicate sites, sites that are identical to each other in content to improve ranking as a group but failing to provide value to searchers
False Google Maps listings, using mailboxes as business listing to fool consumers into thinking he is nearby
Competitor Domain names, he uses the names of competitor locksmith companies to forward traffic to his site when they think they are going to a different company page 2. Locksmith Class scam: Terry Whin-Yates teaches how to rekey a weiser cylinder for over $1000. You can buy a kit that will teach you this from most hardware stores for $20. He teaches little else of value if you are seeking employment in the locksmithing industry. There are legitimate courses available on locksmithing but they are rare and hard to locate. He takes advantage of this fact and offers a low value solution that could cost you a $1500 more than it is worth. 3 Locksmith Franchise scam: Terry Whin-Yates is advertising a "Mr Locksmith" "franchise," in which he will teach you how to take advantage of the public using the methods above. This will cost you over $10 000. He will give you the impression of the profitability of this scheme with false statistics and by using his accomplices as examples showing them to be busy. This is all an act to obtain your money. The "franchise" has no support and the numbers are not authentic. Reference Links: Better Business Bureau rating of F with 3 complaints unanswered: http://www.bbb.org/mbc/business-reviews/locks-and-locksmiths/mr-prolock-in-burnaby-bc-1208591 scam Report posting with screen shot evidence of his deceptive advertising practises: http://www.ripoffreport.com/advertising-deceptive/24-hour-mr-locksmith/24-hour-mr-locksmith-mr-proloc-F8354.htm Scam.com post explains the same as the ripoffreport.com post
Scam.com Post from a former customer who was video taped by Terry Whin-Yates and his son Royce Whin-Yates without permission:
Gigpark post by a former customer of "Mr Locksmith" with an interesting rant following in the comments section:
HomeStars review calls him a thief that cost the reviewer $2000:
Google Maps listing for "Burnaby Locksmith - Mr Prolock Locksmiths" with a UPS Store as the address: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=2406921803397992823&q=burnaby+locksmith&hl=
en&ved=0CGMQ-QswAQ&ei=SmDmTNe9KaGItAPBvanxBA&sll=49.240365,-122.992852&sspn=
0.095922,0.134058&ie=UTF8&ll=49.302069,-123.2024&spn=0,0&z=12 Another Google Maps listing for "AA Automotive Locksmiths" at the same address: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=2406921803397992823&q=burnaby+locksmith&hl=
en&ved=0CGMQ-QswAQ&ei=SmDmTNe9KaGItAPBvanxBA&sll=49.240365,-122.992852&sspn=
0.095922,0.134058&ie=UTF8&ll=49.302069,-123.2024&spn=0,0&z=12 Another fraudulent locksmith listing on Google Maps for "Mr Prolock Vancouver" also a UPS Store: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=6216703630119482762&q=mr+prolock&hl=en&dtab=
0&sll=49.253017,-123.058891&sspn=0.109582,0.308647&ie=UTF8&ll=49.341902,-123.213387&spn=
0,0&z=12
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4956 days ago by Terry Whin-Yates
Fraud Alert: Unlicensed & Unqualified Locksmiths Operating in Vancouver
You must ask for the license of your locksmith and input it into this government webpage to make sure it's valid before you deal with them, or you could be getting ripped off!

Fraud Alert: Unlicensed Vancouver Mobile Locksmith Ltd is an unlicensed Locksmith Company and Robson Locksmith has no BC Locksmith Business License and Colin EVANS does not have a valid BC Locksmith License or even a BC Security Guard License.

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The next time you've locked yourself out of the house, don't be so quick about calling just any locksmith you find online. The Better Business Bureau has received a few complaints about people saying impostors are showing up to fix their locks.
What's happening is you'll call, who you think, is a local locksmith you found on the Internet like Surreylocksmithmaster.info. That call goes to a switchboard in Florida where they dispatch an un-licensed worker to fix your locks.
The BBB's Kevin Hollett says they're fakes and end up charging more than the initial estimate over the phone. "Ask for the legal name of the business, if they refuse than just call another locksmith. When the locksmith arrives ask them for identification, ask for a business card and ask to see the [business] license."
He explains the work is being done, but just not very well. "If you've had any trouble with the work, they don't have anyone that you can follow up with."
Another company that says it's a local business is Locksmith Pro's.


Unlicensed Vancouver Mobile Locksmith Ltd is an unlicensed Locksmith Company and Robson Locksmith has no BC Locksmith Business License and Colin EVANS does not have a valid BC Locksmith License or even a BC Security Guard License

Protect yourself, you can "Verify Locksmith Security Business licence" at the following BC Government site:

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/training/index.htm

Also, you can file a complaint to the Registrar of Security Programs and Police Division. The complaint process can be used to report unlicensed companies and locksmiths.

Complaint Process -- How to file a complaint against a Security Licensee

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/complaint/index.htm

Colin Evans and Robson Locksmith has no BC Locksmith Business License and Colin EVANS does not have a valid BC Locksmith License or even a BC Security Guard License. Also, Vancouver Mobile Locksmith Ltd is an unlicensed Locksmith Company. Colin Evans is Director of Operations at KIMBO Design Inc.
4956 days ago by Terry Whin-Yates
Terry Whin-Yates BA Hons (Criminology) is a 3rd Generation Master Locksmith with over 25 Years Locksmithing experience. Terry has a locksmith license and his Locksmith companies all have their BC Security Business License (B4227).

Terry Whin-Yates BA Hons (Criminology)
3rd Generation Master Locksmith
25+ Years Experience
BC Security Business License : B4227
604-782-6996
4956 days ago by Ccc
Haha Terry Whin-Yates posted the above spam. He is a con and a crook. 3rd Generation Locksmith? Because it's genetic right? haha Who's gives a damn what his daddy did?
4940 days ago by Terry Whin-Yates
Terry Whin-Yates BA Hons (Criminology) is a 3rd Generation Master Locksmith with over 25 Years Locksmithing experience. Terry has a locksmith license and his Locksmith companies all have their BC Security Business License (B4227).

Terry Whin-Yates BA Hons (Criminology)
3rd Generation Master Locksmith
25+ Years Experience
BC Security Business License : B4227
604-782-6996
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