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| Posigrip I feel scammed, and out good money. Daytona, Florida |
| 21st of Sep, 2011 by User750420 |
| Well I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was duked but sad that we all fell for the same story. I relived my story as I read each of yours. I did a lot of research before deciding to "buy into" a package. It all seemed right. I was laid off from my I.T. job after 10 years with my company and they provided me with a severance package. I really liked the idea of working for myself and running my own business. I was assigned a company recruiting rep who hyped me up saying that not everyone is right for this business but they felt I was a perfect fit. He explained the business and how easy it was to make money. We talked for like 3-4 months each time saying if you can swing a mop or operate a sprayer, you can make money in this business. They gave me other operators to contact which I did and they were happy and "making money". One guy in Jacksonville, FL told me his secret to success was to take the post card mailers and send out 200 per week. Out of those 200, you should get about 10-20 calls. Out of those, you should land about 2 jobs per week averaging $1k each. You do the math.....not bad potential. I even found independent operators not with Posigrip who were having success. I paid $8k, went to the Daytona HQ office where training took less than an hour. I asked all the questions I could and they even showed me new products coming out soon and it all sounded great. They were telling me about how they were finalizing a National account for Circle K which there are a few in my area. They hyped me up how that would be a bonus to help me get going. I left Daytona feeling confident and ready to get to work. I even generated new marketing ideas with them. They gave me the name of their insurance company so I could get a better rate. I called and they had no idea of what type of business I was talking about, never heard of Posigrip and they were located in Daytona. Oh and they couldn't write my insurance policy because the closest office was in more than 50 miles away from me. Oh and no territory and no competition.......sweet. So I hired an attorney to help me register my company and draft up proper documents protecting me in the event I ever got sued. I got business cards, printed flyers, made up binded presentations and got to work. I mailed out the 200 post cards per week.......no calls. I started mailing letters to apartment complexes offering services for tubs, pool decks and common areas.......no calls. I went to grocery stores and was referred to call their corporate offices which I did and got the run around only to find a bunch of "not interested". I tried restaurants and liquor stores......nothing. I thought I wasn't doing enough to make this happen. I even went back to my mentor who trained me and he was supposed to have other ideas for me to help my business get going but never heard from him again. The product works, I tested it out several times. Yes you have to mix it and yes it smells like bleach but it does work. I think it's a great concept and every commercial business with tile flooring could benefit from this. There were a lot of businesses interested but I couldn't get anyone to spend the money. Do I blame the economy? Did I get scammed? I saw the small warehouse where they have cases of the product ready to ship. I feel stupid because I hyped this business up to my friends and family and I feel ashamed to even look at them anytime one of them asks me about my business. I feel like a failure and I was a successful I.T. Project manager who negotiated contracts and lead teams to reduced budgets and I can't even make my own business work. So what do I do with all this stuff? The company won't buy it back.....it's clear in the contract. Everything is still in original boxes in air conditioned room. I am trying to find a partner to help me out or sell my business. If anyone out there has questions about this business, wants to try it out, whatever.......feel free to email me. I will be glad to talk to you. If you are in the same situation, hit me up......maybe we can put our minds to work to figure a way to get some money back. My email is |
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| Considering a Posigrip opportunity in Ohio. Has anything changed since you posted this a couple months ago? Where are you located? Are you marketing Posishield as well? |
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OK, Folks what I found was a classy company that has to deal with the likes of slipdoctors and sure step because on an even playing field they cannot compete and here is why...
I start with Posigrip and see the A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau and found that in 26 years since the corporation started they have never had a single complaint. Not 1 complaint and so could that be true? Nobody is that good right?
Heres what I found out.
They say they have 2000 operators around the planet and if you click on the 80 countries on their website they are all live, they are all active and sharp master distributors so none of them are complaining.
Anything that I read that was negative about this company were from characters like Joe or Frank and were on these type of bogus sites. I thought why wouldnt people go to the BBB to complain and why would they complain on some random website?
I found out that its easier to take a shot at a big company from a blog if your a small competitor and hide behind a fake name like joe or frank. (no disrespect to the Joe and Franks of the real world)
I found that Posigrip has close to 200 original patented products and major contracts with all the large companies in the world. All of them. I talked to an associate in their office and asked him about the competition and he said clearly "if McDonalds wants to do 35, 000 stores do you think for a minute they would ever call the slipdoctors and his 8 people"? Which is 4 less I noticed than he had 2 months ago when I started my investigation.
He went on to say" You havent done your homework, If you think that any of these cheap shots against this global leader in slip resistant technology are real, then maybe you really dont deserve to own a business because Posigrip is the real deal, original".
I have to tell you
There is nobody that has spent more research on this subject than I.
Posigrip-The real and Genuine article like they say INNOVATIVE. PERIOD.
I then looked into slipdoctors.com and sure step probably more than anyone on the internet and what I found were little innuendos just like the one in this hokey site. They usually end by saying something like “so I went to slip doctors and they were knowledgeable” etc. etc. -OR- "slipdoctors.com did a beautiful job on my restaurant floor"
So I inquired with slip doctors about this incredible loyalty that their customers seem to be displaying. I asked why their customers were blogging on a competitors website and why it was usually Posigrip. I wondered what would compel a customer to be so thrilled about slip resistance, and I asked slip doctors if they knew who these loyal customers were. They hung up on me.
I didn't give up there, so I checked a little more and found out that the photos on the slip doctor website say Rocky Miller and Greg Cohen the slipdoctors.com owners. As it turns out there is an ad for a used car dealer in the same town that has a photo of the real Greg Cohen who is much younger, shorter thinner and very Jewish. Nothing wrong there except why is he hiding. What is this little guy ashamed of or is he trying to give us a warm fuzzy with the 2 older guys in the photo who since this writing are distributors they now say.
You know what I say. I SAY BEWARE! THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
So then I went and looked up Sure Step in Canada and found that they claim to be a chemical company in Canada and I followed the address to the location with Google, zoomed in and got the name of the building, called the property manager and found out he has never heard of them, and he has been there for 4 years, besides he says this is an office building and zoning would arrest him if he were there making chemicals. So I figure this company is hiding something or they wouldn't lie about such trivial things.
IN THE END I FIND THE FOLLOWING:
POSIGRIP the original and leader by a country mile.
Slipdoctors.com BEWARE
SURE STEP Troubling to say the least. |
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?ADMIN on November 2nd, 2011 3:10 pm
Big Daddy:
I usually try to stay out of the conversations, but I’ll make an exception in your case. I don’t know if you are in fact a PosiGrip shill accidentally making Posigrip look underhanded, or a clever Posigrip detractor doing the same. Anyway, let me address some of your points:
“I start with Posigrip and see the A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau…”
In my experience, BBB ratings are meaningless, and those who tout them should be viewed with suspicion. Read elsewhere on this site about Revive Energy Mints which just scammed 400 people out of $6M. Their company, Sito Marketing, has disconnected phone lines and fled… and currently has a B+ Rating. American Vending Systems BBB review says “BBB knows of no significant government actions involving American Vending Systems.” Last year The USDOJ prosecuted the principals for defrauding more than 900 out of millions and they are sitting in Federal Prison. No one told the BBB.
“They have 2000 operators around the planet and none of them are complaining.”
The subject of the post is the high number of complaints posted on Ripoff Report and elsewhere.
The dealer above is complaining. You haven’t addressed one of the complaints that he makes:
- No territory
- HQ is a hole in the wall w/ 2 rooms and a small warehouse (Global leader?)
- 30 minutes of training
- Extremely difficult to sell
- No support from corporate
- Do not do promised advertising
- No trade show support
- No corporate accounts, as promised
- No contact except to ask for money
- Substandard trade show display
- Lack of corporate communication, new products
- Labor intensive, ineffective marketing
“As it turns out there is an ad for a used car dealer in the same town that has a photo of Greg Cohen who is much younger, shorter thinner and very Jewish. Nothing wrong there except why is he hiding.”
This doesn’t even come close to making sense. Greg Cohen is younger, shorter, thinner and more Jewish in one picture than another? Your point? And despite publishing his picture in at least 2 places, he’s hiding? I think there’s an anti-semitic slur in there somewhere, but the whole thing is so incoherent I can’t be sure.
Big Daddy, you actually make me feel a little sorry for PosiGrip. With advocates like you, who needs detractors? |
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| Now the company is called Nano Concepts / Nano Grip with 15 operations in Florida. What a nighmare |
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