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| Miles Shumilak (The LIST Magazine) http://www.thelistmagazine.biz taking money, scamming, ripping off bands and musicians, not following through on wr |
| 11th of Dec, 2011 by User217778 |
| I contacted Miles Shumilak (owner/editor) of The LIST Magazine about possibly featuring my band on his website, we spoke on the phone and he agreed it would be a great idea. There was no mention of cost at all. After we filled out interview questions, emailed back and forth about promotion details, and submitted photos, he requested payment to "cover operations costs" of posting our info. Since we'd gotten that far, I simply paid it through PayPal. Weeks went by and nothing went up on the website. I emailed to follow up, to which he said they were incredibly busy and not to worry, the feature would be posted soon. I followed up several weeks later. No response. Months later, he has still never responded to any communications. And of course, no feature was ever posted. It has been brought to my attention that Miles has run this scam on other musicians as well. To any bands out there looking for good promotion partners, DO NOT work with Miles Shumilak or The List. He is running a scam to take your money and give nothing in return. |
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| Just received an email from him offering the same thing. Thanks for the heads up and saving me the time and effort. |
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This is Miles Shumilak. I need to take responsibility for these old complaints about The LIST Magazine. I don't expect to win everyone's heart over but the least I can do is explain ...
The LIST was a print mag I created in my twenties, my first attempt at running a business (with zero training or experience). At that point I had been in a band for ten years, eventually sponsored by Lamborghini and touring the country, good times but still a starving artist. Intrigued by entertainment media and entrepreneurship, I took the leap and tried running my own mag. For years I made no money, chasing advertisers etc.. Eventually I had an 'aha' moment and realized I could offer micro-ads to indie artists like myself, and build a national promotional network that we would all benefit from. It was a ton of work to communicate with hundreds of bands, but it felt good to support musicians and $25 seemed extremely reasonable.
The PROBLEM is that I was extremely naive about the workload I was committing to for such a cheap price. It quickly became overwhelming to edit so much content for so many bands who were barely paying anything. I couldn't keep up and people started getting pissed, understandably on their part. What no one realizes is that 95% of my bands were happy and successfully taken care of, but it became a massive business and I got way behind schedule, hence these angry comments. I DEFINITELY fucked up, but my goal was never to 'scam' people.
CONSIDER THIS: if I was trying to to be shady, I certainly wouldn't have friended everyone on facebook, shared my personal phone number, email, and life story with all these artists ... so they could easily put me on blast and ruin my reputation. While some of you got left hanging for $25, look at the the damage I've done to my name. It's extremely embarrassing, I'm deeply ashamed, but now I have to deal with it. At this point presently, I've already resolved and/or refunded most of these complaints, but unfortunately the internet is not conducive to people making positive comments, as anyone who's been on youtube can attest. Tempers and words get out of control very quickly when someone is sitting safely home alone on their laptop.
Bottom line is I bit off way more than I could chew at that point in my life, I got way overwhelmed, and The LIST failed. I was just a broke ambitious band guy who had a good idea that worked way too well and too fast. I'm GENUINELY SORRY, obviously I lost in the end and it'll take years (or forever) for me to fix my reputation. My friends in 'real life' love me, I'm a positive and intelligent person who made some stupid mistakes. I've learned from them and am now successfully supporting artists around the world. If you haven't already been refunded, text me at 858.771.0131 and I'll respond promptly. I'm not perfect, but I'm not evil. If you've never bit off more than you can chew ... you're not hungry enough. |
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