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MANTHISSITESUCKS.com singsnapsucks2.com Malicious and Libelous Activity Internet
26th of Apr, 2011 by User500338
Singsnapsucks2.com changed to MANTHISSITESUCKS.com is a hate site directed inwards upon itself.This web site was formed by a disgruntled former member of Singsnap(SS),Judy Holland of Hemet,California.Her SS name was joodee and was a former volunteer staff member who was reshuffled into a different position because of her inability to perform required tasks.She became angry and resigned her membership. Having done so she went back into the SS computer and wrote a scathing post ridiculing the staff and their actions.She initially began to frequent singsnapsucks,a web site designed to bring disgrace to SS and it's staff.She later formed her own web site under Lefora,singsnapsucks2 where she was unable to maintain much control due to site problems.She did get caught in admitting on line in a published email to Lefora admin asking for splitting the fees with her and her partner.Diane Patchem.The web site changed and is now known as MANTHISSITESUCKS(MAN). The site admins were supposedly to be living in Canada and using the names shapeshifter and maple leafs.The membership consists of a small number of disgruntled ex and current SS members who make it a point to attempt to create strife against SS using any tactic.Much of the content is based on rumor,innuendo,assumptions,gossip and lies.Again more of the content is spun to make the worst out of absolutely nothing.Since there was little to discuss after a short period the began to attack current members of SS and other web sites using extremely libelous and angry words to poke fun and ridicule others. One member in particular,oldladysal was using SS to report her own definitions of wrong doing under the guise of helping out.At the same time she was an active and vicious opponent of SS on MAN under a totally different name.This was reported to SS staff and she was banned from that site.MAN members are posting personal emails with malicious intent and other civil infractions.Some of their content crosses the line into criminal activity. Lawyers on two continents are now involved in bringing these individuals to justice.They have all too long been running rampant, causing harm to individuals who they think deserve it.The web site is closed to the public unless membership is requested and approved by Judy Holland,the site owner.Originally Judy Holland was not going to be a poster on that site but that lasted one day.She was not going to solicit funds to support the site but that lasted but a short time.The entire web site was based on deceit and malicious intent and is soon going to be held accountable for the behaviors.The web can be a wonderful place to interact with other people.It can also be a place of extreme duress and wrong doing.It is a pity that people have to solicit others to be willing participants in their harmful activities.All it takes is to disagree with their hateful agenda and others will become targets of their vicious attacks.
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4972 days ago by Leavemeoutofthis
Larry post my full name in public one more time and I will be adding you to the law suit that is now in the works.. Doubt me? You are failing on one site because the owner there keeps deleting your posts.. I don't really care that you have some kind of crazy obession with this site but leave my name out of it.. It is amazing what attorneys can find out about the people they are perusing to prepare for a law suit. You are so misinformed. Again post my name one more time in association with this site.. I am keeping a close eye on the net to make sure you do keep my name out of it.. One more defendant for my attorney at this point will not make a differnce to him.. 400 pages of proof of wrong doings 410 page won't make much of a difference. The information that was given to you by your cohort is 100% incorrect. And if she lies to you would you know it? I do..
4915 days ago by Trknduffer
"One member in particular, oldladysal was using SS to report her own definitions of wrong doing under the guise of helping out.At the same time she was an active and vicious opponent of SS on MAN under a totally different name.This was reported to SS staff and she was banned from that site.MAN members are posting personal emails with malicious intent and other civil infractions.Some of their content crosses the line into criminal activity. Lawyers on two continents are now involved in bringing these individuals to justice."

From the results of a google search for 'oldladySal':

1.)
SingSnap | What Offends You?
(link now in 'Group Discussions') -
OldLadySal wrote: People who have the arrogance to think they have the right to tell others how to speak, think and behave. ...
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SingSnap | What Offends You?
(link now in 'Group Discussions') -
Oct 27, 2010 – OldLadySal wrote: I'm with you, ****! Actually, it offends me that anyone, using a fake nic or their own, campaigns against another member

Why am I 'outing' my own mother? Simple, really... her hypocrisy and pompous attitude has resulted in yet another IP address ban from SingSnap, preventing me access to my own account - The latest coming after...

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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM, oldladysal wrote:

My son has done nothing to you or Trevor or SS to warrant having his access eliminated.

I will promise, on my very life, to NEVER try to access SS at any time in the future, if you will reinstate his account.

Sally

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Wow... on her very life. Hmmmmmm...

Using one of the same tactics in creating an alias account (who the members of MAN are decrying as illegal trespassing, in their attempts to bring legal action on others), Sal had even been so bold to actually make a post on at least one of the SingSnap forums. This is what had led to the FIRST IP ban, for which I managed to negotiate a conditional release.

Then, I get an email from a SingSnap Staff member on July 3, claiming more trespassing...

Once she was informed that I'd been made aware of her continued trespassing and that our IP addy would be banned AGAIN, she said, "That's bullshit - I did not!"

Even with the screen shot (where she'd done a copy & paste of a post made on SS, placing it on MAN on July 2, 2011) proof of the trespass having been forwarded to her, it seems that I'm not owed an apology for her actions, going further to attempt to lecture me... "My relationship with SS or anyone else, is none of your business."

Excuse me?!?!? I'm all for 'Freedom of Speech', but my understanding is that particular right comes with the responsibility of doing so in a way that does not infringe upon the rights of others. Once such actions, whether they be borderline criminal (but most certainly unethical), or not, that 'relationship' became my business when it affected my right to access to my own personal account.

Add to this, the fact that there's a certain SS member who had been made 'one of the enemy' in this charade of trying to tell people what is, or is not, appropriate behavior on the SS boards now seems intent on trying to hack the website I've built. So now, my efforts to do something positive with my time, learning what could very possibly become my new career in getting certified in one or more web page design languages is constantly being challenged as a result of actions not of my doing, but influenced by the actions of the oldlady. (Looking at it on the bright side... if nothing else, I'm getting a 'crash' course in website security...)

Broken promises, lies, hypocrisy, negating the rights of others and refusing to admit how such actions are wrong... Well, as the saying goes, "Karma is a bitch - and she bites". I wonder how that statement of, "...on my very life..." will come into play on this one.

As for MAN, itself, I'd noticed how some of its members had made an issue at one point or another as to how SingSnap had delegated authority to members to act as Staff/Admin personnel, on a voluntary basis, with little or no screening or qualifications for some members to be in such a position. Seriously... in this light now, it would seem (to most reasonably intelligent people, anyhow) there is a case of 'pot calling the kettle black' going on here. How, in all aspects of sensibility and credibility, can anyone cry 'foul' on another site when the very same practice is quite obvious in their own ranks?

If there's anything I can do to help justice bring this overly-dramatic nonsense to an end and possibly rid the web of yet another arrogant bully, just let me know!

My sincere apologies to those who have been negatively affected by the behavior of the person known as 'oldladysal'. I do have regrets now, for having introduced her to SS, originally holding the thought it would be a positive, constructive outlet for someone who had so little to do and would be something we could both share. It worked for awhile... until her attempts to 'mother' everyone became an obsession. Another case of, "Do as I say, not as I do", "My way or the highway" mentality. Sorry, I have this sudden urge to vomit...

For those who think I'm a despicable, mean son for making this post... Until you walk a mile in my shoes (or the shoes of those who are being persecuted with this inappropriate behavior), your opinion is just that - your opinion.

James A. Ward - (SS nic - trknduffer)
4893 days ago by Carollreyn
This, coming from a 56 yr old man who's mommy paid for everything. You leeched every morsel of food off of her. Hey, in order to throw your own mother under the bus like this, you used the very internet connection SHE PAID FOR. Every letter you typed on that keyboard SHE paid for every month. Your mother has been paying for your groceries, internet, rent and all utilities for two years.
You don't work. You don't pay any bills. Poor, poor A.J.

You also screwed over your own mother so you can play around on a troubled karaoke site? I'm sure that karaoke site is aware you became a member of manthissitesucks a very long time ago. I'm sure they're equally aware you copied numerous videos from members profile pages. I'm sure they're aware of the crappy things you said about Trevor and countless others there. Why in the world would they want to keep you? You bad mouthed Annie daily and she's the one letting you back on the site? Um, how does that work again?
All you ever did was lock yourself in your bedroom every single day and sit at a computer that you never once paid for. You are just a leech and a sub human piece of garbage.

It is NOT just an opinion to call you a leech for not paying rent. It is not saying you're mean because the very woman you're screwing over pays all your bills. You're a fucked up asshole AJ.
Your father and stepmother kicked you out and now you're going to have to find a way to get a job and pay your own bills. Imagine that. Who in the flying fuck do you think you are? Your mother even called your stepmother and your father and apologized for even suggesting they take you in back then.

You didn't hurt anyone by writing this except yourself. Gee, let's tell the entire internet what a creep you are by shitting on your mom to the world. What a guy. What a prized catch.

What a damn loser.

Anyone re't work and you don't have any income. You don't even TRY to get a job you bum. You had a mild heart attack. So what? You can work. You don't bring in any disability or unemployment. You refuse to because you're lazy. Now? You're on your own to leech off someone else. No. you'll probably squat there until the sheriff forces you out of the building for non payment.

How DARE you hate your own mother. How DARE you speak negatively about her on public pages of the internet. Then you have the gall to ask her to type up a letter saying she was your sole provider and caregiver for that two years, when the original agreement was that YOU were supposed to do that for HER!!!. You're a real piece of work you little shit.

She only let you move in, in the first place if you cooked the meals and were her caregiver. Now, after the SHIT you've thrown her way, you ask her to write a false statement like that so you can try and fool the government. You're sick. (She actually did it people. Yes she did!)

Why don't you THANK you mother for paying your rent. Why don't you THANK your mother for buying all the groceries for the past couple of years. Why don't you THANK you mother for taking you in when no one else wanted you. Why don't you THANK you own flesh and blood for giving you free internet to post this slop, you no good lousy loser of a son who is closing in on 60 yrs old and perhaps the most bitter, selfish, ungrateful jerk ever.

Why are you even living? You're a waste.

Get off your ass and go get a job and pay your own way.

No one could even reply to your disgusting post until your mother was safe out of that apartment. No one trusted you to not lay a hand on her and harm her in some way if you read anyone sticking up for what was right. From what we understand you're more then capable of hurting her.You're abusive to anyone that is in your life, but no one more then your own mother.

Rot in hell.
4892 days ago by Ungratfulshit
All I can say is the person above pretty much said it all. But I just have to say for a man your age, you act like a child. You are going to pay for singsnap how? Are you going to get a job now that your Mommy has left you on your own? Will you con someone into paying your way? Will singsnap pay for your internet since they were so willing to work out a compromise for a person who signed up on manthissite sucks himself? I doubt it.

You really are the lowest form of life I have seen in a long time. Posting about the woman who gave birth to you. Posting about the woman who fed you. Posting about the woman who paid for the very site you are sticking up for. If you had any issues why not just be a grown up and discuss them with your Mother instead of posting here? It shows what a coward you are.

I only hope that none of my children ever do something as disgusting as this to me. I know your Mother and I can assure you sunny you are misinformed about singsnap. You are taking the word of a woman who gets paid crap to manipulate people. The entire site at singsnap is nothing but a kiss my ass and I will do you a favor.

Grow up and as the person up there said. GET A JOB!!! There is nothing wrong with you. You are lucky that I don't report you to whoever it is that you are going to try and con that you are unable to work. Truth is you will have to have THEIR Dr. check you out to see if you are not able to work. It is not as easy as you think.

Really you are one pathetic man. I think you made a huge mistake posting your name here. Jerk Off
4890 days ago by Ungratfulshit
Oh and Mr. Ungrateful. Your Mother posted this on a thread on singsnap called My Favorite Things. See what you don't get about singsnap is they have caused too many people too much strife in their lives. And you would rather side with a site that is run like a boot camp over your own Mother. I do hope one day you will look inside of yourself and see just how ungrateful you have been.


Reply by OldLadySal on February 13, 2011 at 4:36 PM
My son, AJ, who's a great cook and keeps me fed.
Deb, my contest co-host, friend and confidante.
All of my SS friends, who keep me smiling and on my toes.
Music - of all kinds
Furry babies - dogs, cats...
4890 days ago by Lita
sounds like in spite of your shitty attitude and your disgusting hate for your own mother dear, you still found it quite easy to throw her to the wolves.


sounds like she loves you even tho your the worst excuse for a man
4889 days ago by Anonymous
Even with the screen shot (where she'd done a copy & paste of a post made on SS, placing it on MAN on July 2, 2011) proof of the trespass having been forwarded to her, it seems that I'm not owed an apology for her actions, going further to attempt to lecture me... "My relationship with SS or anyone else, is none of your business."

Excuse me?!?!? I'm all for 'Freedom of Speech', but my understanding is that particular right comes with the responsibility of doing so in a way that does not infringe upon the rights of others. Once such actions, whether they be borderline criminal (but most certainly unethical), or not, that 'relationship' became my business when it affected my right to access to my own personal account.

THE ABOVE IS MY FAVORITE PART. HEHEHE HE THINKS ITS HIS BUSINESS AND HE DOESNT EVEN PAY FOR THE INTERNET. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SWEETHEART, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO YOUR PERSONAL ACCT WHEN SOMEONE ELSE PAY THAT BILL.
UNTIL YOU PAY FOR THE INTERNET, SHT YR MOUTH.

WHO KNOWS HOW UR GONNA MANAGE NOW. CRAWL ON UR KNEES TO THE WELFARE OFFICE I SUPPOSE WITH THAT LETTER SHE SIGNED FOR YOU ASSWIPE
4884 days ago by Dominick
Drugs do terrible things to people. They destroy lives and families.

Get help.
4878 days ago by Shadowdancer
You all feel better now ...shitting all over someone...may karma bite you in the ass big time...I can only hope that for you. There are two sides to every story. Mild heart attack...someone having a stent put in...Mild? Nothing like kicking someone who is having a hard go for a time...kinda hard to read when i know its most likely family writing these things...or one of those sing snap sucks losers...get a life
4878 days ago by Trknduffer
Mild heart attack... Yeah, right. 'Only' a stent... I gotta laugh at how you people try and trivialize what's real in your efforts to attack others, while ignoring the truth of the original post. Typical diversionary tactics of those who try and point the finger at someone other than those who've been caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Documented in more than one perfusion injection stress test, the results show my heart only capable of pumping at 30% and that recovery time is quadrupled. The damage from my original heart attack is done - irreversible. I'm wondering how 'mild' it would be considered by those who take their jabs here, if their car could only maintain 18mph while everybody else is doing 60... with any effort to go any faster would find them parked on the shoulder of the road for God-only-knows how long.

And yes, I've seen the first of 'THEIR' doctors - the EKG showed him enough (and his his own words, "You've likely had another heart attack in the past couple of months ..") that not only has my case been officially opened, but my state incapacity case worker has assisted in getting my case upgraded and have me qualified for Social Security. No crawling involved.

No, I'm not proud of the fact that I now have to rely on 'welfare' and I'm not particularly happy with having to jump through the hoops, but I've come to the realization that I have to do this for myself. I should have started this process earlier, like about the time when the OldLady decided she was NOT going to have her prescriptions renewed, knowing it would come to no good. As if having lost more than 35 pounds in the past year and a half, while mom was gaining weight, shouldn't have raised enough red flags to endure the red tape...

And, as is also typical of the MAN mentality, making up stories as they go, we now have an insinuation/accusation of drug abuse? Really... Are we taking the OldLady's unfounded 'opinions', 'thoughts' or other hand-me-down GOSSIP as gospel truth, here? Cute...

I do NOT do drugs of ANY kind and refuse to have anymore dealings with those who do!! I agree - they destroy lives and families and are a big part of why I've left more than one relationship.

How 'bout you step up and put your money where your mouth is - You set up a UA test at the clinic (SeaMar - Ocean Shores, WA) and I'll not only piss in the bottle, but am willing to give a blood sample, too! (and I HATE needles) AND... If I don't pass the lab, I'LL pay the bill. C'mon... Put up or shut up! These RUMORS can be laid to rest. My bad... you probably don't have the guts to do it, as it would give you one less thing to gossip and giggle about.

(Reminds self that it's people like this, who throw out accusations and have people thinking they have to prove themselves innocent, who are the real scumbags...)

Until then, I'll continue my studies of the php/mySql coding and prepare for taking the test. Wish me luck, as I may need it - Being there are over 700 built-in functions in php alone, that's a lot of stuff for this asswipe to remember. At least I'm doing something POSITIVE. Sorry I can't make that claim for you all...
4878 days ago by Kesslert
So youre back on the internet I see. How? selling meth again? Be careful dude, you're ass is about to land in jail. Their eyes are everywhere and they're watching you!
4878 days ago by Kesslert
Dont think no one said you were actually soin them drugs yourself. selling them's a whole different animal.

youre bein watched.
4877 days ago by Peyton
whoaaaaaaaaa horsie. if ur on welfare man why were you pulling yur weight with the bills??? you keepin all that doh for yurself when yur moms paying for everything????

thats the peoples point. ur a mooch.
4877 days ago by Shadowdancer
Who are you people...who gives you the right to pass judgment ...sounding off with false accusations ...mean spirited rotten comments...What a marvel your lives must be ..feeling free to wave that shitty stick around...hope you find yourself on the end of it ...Judge not...lest...
4877 days ago by Existwithin
go back to ur husband lady and stop committing adultery.
4861 days ago by Howunfortunate4u
dont worry peeps. larry is dust according to google..


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4861 days ago by Korncoverband
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Case Number:

2:11-cv-05388
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Pennsylvania Eastern
Nature of Suit:

320(Assault Libel & Slander)

Cause 28:1338 Copyright Infringement
Judge:

HONORABLE WILLIAM H. YOHN, JR
Firms

Buchanan Ingersoll

Complaint
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Reflects complaints, answers, motions, orders and trial notes entered from Jan. 1, 2011.
Additional or older documents may be available in Pacer.
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LAWRENCE DICKERSON
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Defendant

JOHN DOE NUMBER 1
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JOHN DOES 2 THROUGH 100
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CATHERINE LOUDON
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SHANDA LANCASTER MADDOX
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TREVOR MCGUIRE
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DIANE PATCHEN
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FRANCIS X. TANEY, JR., BUCHANAN INGERSOLL & ROONEY PC
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ROBERT J. SMIK
Represented by:

FRANCIS X. TANEY, JR., BUCHANAN INGERSOLL & ROONEY PC
4861 days ago by Korncoverband
the other lady doing sumthinng too?
4860 days ago by Pandy
I would if I were her

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