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| Lilis Chihuahuas Oleg Kotiouk Alias: Tim Walace My nightmare of dealing with a Thief - Fraud - fraudulent pet breeder Sacramento, California |
| 26th of May, 2011 by User488953 |
My nightmare of dealing with a Theif - Fraudulent pet breeder My name is Sandi and I was looking for a good guard dog. After researching dogs I decided on a Thai Ridgeback. I contacted by email several breeders and they responded to me and so starts this Nighmare and scam Please help me help other from getting into this Ripped off. He has done this before and gotten away with it like he is getting away with it now. On 3/22/11, I sent him a message: Tim Walace ximum sify com His real name is: Oleg Kotiouk I wanted to purchase a Thai Ridgeback WellBredPets com has relayed the following message to you which is in response to your ad Thank you, WellBredPets - The site I posted and he answered not there fault but I want to warn anyone not to get caught in his trap The message that was sent to you is shown below: Hello: I am interested in purchasing a Thai Ridgeback puppy. Do you have any available or do you know of someone who might. Thank you, Monday, March 21, 2011 9:32 PM From: Tim Walace ximum sify comAdd sender To: Hello and thanks for the email. I currently have 3 Thai ridgeback puppies available for sale as can be seen on our web site lilischihuahuas cr nr The puppies are 10 weeks old now, AKC registered, vaccinated and will be going with all health papers. We raise our puppies in our home,around children and other animals. My children are 5,9 and 15 years old and are very sweet with the puppies. We raise our puppies with love and care and we guarantee nothing but a pet loving Thai Ridgeback puppy. We feed our puppies with Puppy formula,puppy biscuits,scrambled eggs, puppy food (soft),Nutro Lamb, chicken and rice. A puppy cost $400.Please get back to me with answers to the following questions. Here is my banking information Bank name : Citibank Account name :Oleg Kotiouk 9987733413 Bank 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento CA 95825 Please 916 929 6047 Please i am working now and can not reach the phone. Will be shipping Ebony over the weekend, so call me tomorrow morning for updates. Will also call you once Ebony is about to board the customers address. Thanks After we settled on a price He constantly hounded me to send him the payments: i was just wondering if you could please scan and forward the receipt of the payment you made? It hasn't arrive into my account yet. Shipping has been schedule for Tuesday, April 05 but you must confirm that you are going to be home before i can proceed with the shipping as i won't be happy if the puppy is brought back to me. Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote:
Hello Sandi,
My nightmare of dealing with a Thief - Fraudulent pet breeder
My name is Sandi and I was looking for a good guard dog. After researching dogs I decided on a Thai Ridgeback. I contacted by email several breeders and they responded to me and so starts this Nighmare and scam
Please help me help other from getting into this Ripped off. He has done this before and gotten away with it like he is getting away with it now. On 3/22/11, I sent him a message: Tim Walace ximum sify com
His real name is: Oleg Kotiouk
I wanted to purchase a Thai Ridgeback
WellBredPets com has relayed the following message to you which is in
response to your ad
Thank you, WellBredPets - The site I posted and he answered
not there fault but I want to warn anyone not to get caught in his trap The message that was sent to you is shown below:
Hello:
I am interested in purchasing a Thai Ridgeback puppy. Do you have any available or do you know of someone who might.
Thank you, Monday, March 21, 2011 9:32 PM
From: Tim Walace ximum sify comAdd sender To:
Hello and thanks for the email. I currently have 3 Thai ridgeback
puppies available for sale as can be seen on our web site
www lilischihuahuas co nr . The puppies are 10 weeks old now, AKC
registered, vaccinated and will be going with all health papers. We
raise our puppies in our home,around children and other animals. My
children are 5,9 and 15 years old and are very sweet with the puppies.
We raise our puppies with love and care and we guarantee nothing but a pet loving Thai Ridgeback puppy. We feed our puppies with Puppy formula,puppy biscuits,scrambled eggs, puppy food (soft),Nutro Lamb, chicken and rice. A puppy cost $400.Please get back to me with answers to the following questions. Here is my banking information Bank name : Citibank Account name :Oleg Kotiouk Account 9987733413 Bank address : 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento CA 95825 Please 916 929 6047 Please i am working now and can not reach the phone. Will be shipping Ebony over the weekend, so call me tomorrow morning for updates. Will also call you once Ebony is about to board the pcustomers address. Thanks After we settled on a price He constantly hounded me to send him the payments: i was just wondering if you could please scan and forward the receipt of the payment you made? It hasn't arrive into my account yet. Shipping has been schedule for Tuesday, April 05 but you must confirm that you are going to be home before i can proceed with the shipping as i won't be happy if the puppy is brought home in your absence. Hello Sandi,
Withouth the payment, i can not confirm the shipping because i will have to prepay for the delivery. Please release the funds so that i can as well make sure that your puppy is delivered. regards __________________________________________________________________________ Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote: Hello Sandi, I am very experience with the shipping of dogs and have had a 100% success in the past. You don't have to be worried as your puppy will be ok during and after the trip. I will register your puppy priority and will include a few toys so that your puppy should be busy while traveling to you. _________________________________________________________________________ Tim: The road sounds like a highway but it's my driveway. How can I pick him up there? Will he come by UPS? It will have to be on the weekend so that I can have the gate open. I have a gate at the end of the driveway. He would have to arrive Saturday or Sunday. Let me know who will be the shipper and the phone number so that I can contact them to coordinate the arrival time. Thank you so much for everything. Best Regards, Sandi _________________________________________________________________________ From: Tim Walace ximum sify com Subject: Re: Ebony To: Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Sandi, I will be working the night today. I will be sending the health papers of the puppy. Here are the bank details for the payment. Citibank Account name :Oleg Kotiouk Account 9987733413 regards _________________________________________________________________________ From: Tim Walace ximum sify com To: Hello Sandi, The document is fine and we can proceed with the payment and shipping. You will have to pick up the puppy with its health papers at (customers address) . Please make sure you take your puppy to a vet as i will be sending all required papers. Please do let me know as soon as the payment has been made. regards On 3/26/11, _________________________________________________________________________ On 4/7/11, Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote: Hello Sandi,
Your puppy is being shipped today, hope you will be available home to open the front gate the delivery man.
Thanks
____________________________________________________________ From: Tim Walace ximum sify.com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To: Sandi
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:16 AM Hello Ms
I contacted the bank and provided the receipt number you sent, They have confirmed that payment has been made and will show up in my account any time soon which is why i had to proceed with the delivery. if you are unavailable this week to receive your puppy, please let me know when is another good time for you to receive your puppy. Regards Tim Walace _________________________________________________________________________ He sent me his banking details in several emails and constantly wanted payment I could not afford to pay the total so I broke it down into two payments. _________________________________________________________________________ I sent to his bank two paymebts Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 my checking account $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 My checking account $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed He was asking 400.00 for the Thai Ridgeback and I send him 100.00 extra for shipping. He has given me numerous amounts for shipping cost now - so I started backing out ... but he kept saying that he was sending the puppy before I sent him all the money?? What's with that? He sent me his banking info with almost every email Bank name : Citibank Account Oleg Kotiouk Account 9987733413 Bank address : 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento CA 95825 9169296047 preview Please i am working now and can not reach the phone. Will be shipping Ebony over the weekend, so call me tomorrow morning for updates. Will also call you once Ebony is about to board the plane (customers address). Thanks I also allowed him to know that I would be a return customer Re: Payment - Ebony Monday, March 28, 2011 8:22 AM From: "San View contact details To: Tim Walace ximum sify com Tim: If this transaction goes well, then I will be a return customer. I am looking for a female, registered, Miniature Pincher, Red and possibly a female, reg, Thai Ridgeback who is not related to Ebony. Thank you for your time and assistance. Best Regards,
_______________________________________________________________________ I believe this is how he conducts he business - Very Sad indeed Finally after constantly sending emails and putting this information in BBB and emailing him. On 4/15/11 I wrote: Oleg Please correspond with me before this starts getting very ugly. I would appreciate your prompt response. Regards ____________________________________________________________________________ He replies to my message - I'm feeling better now From: Tim Walace ximum sify com Subject: Re: Ebony To: Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 9:53 PM Hello, Sorry, have been busy with work. Please supply your bank account details for the refund. regards _______________________________________________________________________ On 4/16/11, "Tim Walace" wrote Hello Sandi, I already told you that i am away and if you want your money back in your account, that should happen late next week as i get paid mid next week. About the Insurance, it will cost $120 for Ebony to join you. I have contacted the freight company to make sure all the papers are ready and they should contact you on a business day as they are not working today. I understand you expect me to respond asap but i am away and only get the chance to email you once or twice a day. Thank you Oleg 1. He never sent any email that he was away. Liar 2. He of course needs more money (that's over the 500.00 he already has) He has done this before On 4/18/11 Oleg: Please return my $400.00 per your agreement Regards, Monday, April 18, 2011 1:26 AM From: "Tim Walace" ximum sify com To: Hello Sandi, You did not pay all the $400, according to our emails, you had to pay half upfront and the balance upon delivery. I have the receipt details you sent to me which you said $250 has been paid into my account. If you want your refund, it should be $250 as indicated in my account. I will forward the receipt details and email you sent about paying the $250. regards Now it's only 250.00 and he is going to send me the proof! Good ... I sent him proof from my bank - Fraud What a HORRIBLE PERSON Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 This is the record from my account $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed He refuses to even write back now. He has my money and has no problem Ripping me off. Please help others to not lose their precious money. He Frauds people who love animals. ________________________________________________________________________ This is his contract and he doesn't even go by his own agreement. PUPPY SALES CONTRACT / AGREEMENT The following agreemtn is between Tim Walace (Breeder), hereafter referred as the "seller,"and Sandi , hereafter referred to as "Purchaser". In consideration of a purchase price of USD dollar ($400), of which $100 is a non-refundable deposit, the Seller transfers in fee simple all rights, privileges & responsibilities with the ownership of the male dog of the THAI RIDGBACK breed to Purchaser as of the date & time specified below. The breeder warrants the puppy 6 months of good health, every effort has been made to ensure that your puppy is healthy in body & mind,and is sold subject to it being understood that as a living creature it is impossible to predict how it will continue to develop, especially as regards behaviour over which you will have the principal influence. Both your puppy & parents are typical examples of the breed, with excellent temperament. The puppies have been cared in a busy family envirronment, exposed to all normal household activities. It is essential that you take your puppy to a veterinarian in the first 45days for a health check. Should there be a health problem not attributable to its journey home (travel sickness)) or change in food or water, and this renders him unfit for sale as a companion, a full refund of the purchase price will be made in production of a veterinary report. You will be provided with food that the puppy has been reared on. Any changes must be gradual. If through unforseen circumstances it becomes necessary for you to find your dog a new home, you should contact me as i may be in the a better position to find the RIGHT new home, this would normally not entail any refund, as the adopter would not expect to pay for an older pup or adult dog. I hope your puppy will be a valued member of your family for a long happy healthy lieftime. The purchaser agrees to abide by the rules drwn up by the breeder and agrees to complete the balance in case of any advance payment. Name of Dog : EBONY Date of Birth : 6th January 2011 Reg Number : 08-268990/TRB Breed : THAI RIDGBACK Sex : MALE Seller : TIM WALACE Seller : SANDI Address : 5641 Tahama st Address : ______________________ Sacramento,CA 95841 ________________________ Date : Thursday March 24,2011 Date : www lilischihuahuas co ne Name: Tim Walace: His real name is: Oleg Kotiouk Phone Listed on the Site 702 409 6269 Address: 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento, CA 95825 Email Address of Owner: Tim Walace ximum sify.com Business Name: Lili's Chihuahuas REPORT TITLE: Lili's Chihuahuas Scam and Fraudulent The lies continue - it has been a month since i sent this man the money for my dog and all I get is nothing. OLEG These are the transactions from my bank account. Please refund my money APRIL 12TH 2011 Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed
It is now the end of April and you have been paid so this is another lie your telling. I want my money back. Why do you keep asking me for more money. Please return my money
--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote:
From: Tim Walace ximum sify com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To:
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 7:00 PM
Hi,
Can you please send a copy of the receipt since you say i should not get 400 back? Please do because I have proof!
regards
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:33 AM OLEG Please return my $400.00 per our agreement. On Mon, 4/18/11, Tim Walace ximum sify comwrote:
From: Tim Walace ximum sify com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To:
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 1:26 AM
Hello Sandi You did not pay all the $400, according to our emails, you had to pay half upfront and the balance upon delivery. I have the receipt details you sent to me which you said $250 has been paid into my account. If you want your refund, it should be $250 as indicated in my account. I will forward the receipt details and email you sent about paying the
$250.
regards On 4/18/11,
Oleg: Please send me back my money, per your agreement. Regards, --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Tim Walacewrote:
To:
Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 2:29 PM Hello Sandi, I already told you that i am away and if you want your money back in your account, that should happen late next week as i get paid mid next week. About the Insurance, it will cost $120 for Ebony to join you. I have contacted the freight company to make sure all the papers are ready and they should contact you on a business day as they are not
working today. I understand you expect me to respond asap but i am away and only get the chance to email you once or twice a day. Thank you Sure it will cost more money then the 500.00
Fraud
On 4/16/11S
Oleg
I did not get anything about Insurance but i did get all your emails to send the money to you!
Best Regards I am very experience with the shipping of dogs and have had a 100% success in the past. You don't have to be worried as your puppy will be ok during and after the trip. I will register your puppy priority and will include a few toys so that your puppy should be busy while traveling to you. __________________________________________________________________ Tim: The road sounds like a highway but it's my driveway. How can I pick him up there? Will he come by UPS? It will have to be on the weekend so that I can have the gate open. I have a gate at the end of the driveway. He would have to arrive Saturday or Sunday. Let me know who will be the shipper and the phone number so that I can contact them to coordinate the arrival time. Thank you so much for everything. Best Regards, Sandi
______________________________________________________________ From: Tim Walace ximum sify com Subject: Re: Ebony To: Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Sandi, I will be working the night today. I will be sending the health papers of the puppy. Here are the bank details for the payment. Citibank Account name :Oleg Kotiouk Account 9987733413 regards __________________________________________________________ From: Tim Walace ximum sify com To: Hello Sandi, The document is fine and we can proceed with the payment and shipping. You will have to pick up the puppy with its health papers at (customers address) . Please make sure you take your puppy to a vet as i will be sending all required papers. Please do let me know as soon as the payment has been made. regards On 3/26/11, _______________________________________________________________ On 4/7/11, Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote:
Hello Sandi,
Your puppy is being shipped today, hope you will be available home to open the front gate the delivery man.
Thanks
___________________________________________________________From: Tim Walace ximum sify.com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To: Sandi
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:16 AM Hello Ms
I contacted the bank and provided the receipt number you sent, They have confirmed that payment has been made and will show up in my account any time soon which is why i had to proceed with the delivery. if you are unavailable this week to receive your puppy, please let me know when is another good time for you to receive your puppy. Regards Tim Walace ________________________________________________________________ He sent me his banking details in several emails and constantly wanted payment I could not afford to pay the total so I broke it down into two payments. __________________________________________________________________ I sent to his bank two payments Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 my checking account $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 My checking account $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed He was asking 400.00 for the Thai Ridgeback and I send him 100.00 extra for shipping. He has given me numerous amounts for shipping cost now - so I started backing out ... but he kept saying that he was sending the puppy before I sent him all the money?? What's with that? He sent me his banking info with almost every email Bank name : Citibank Account Oleg Kotiouk Account 9987733413 Bank address : 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento CA 95825 9169296047 preview Please i am working now and can not reach the phone. Will be shipping Ebony over the weekend, so call me tomorrow morning for updates. Will also call you once Ebony is about to board the plane (customers address). Thanks I also allowed him to know that I would be a return customer Re: Payment - Ebony Monday, March 28, 2011 8:22 AM From: "San View contact details To: Tim Walace ximum sify com Tim: If this transaction goes well, then I will be a return customer. I am looking for a female, registered, Miniature Pincher, Red and possibly a female, reg, Thai Ridgeback who is not related to Ebony. Thank you for your time and assistance. Best Regards, _______________________________________________________________________ I believe this is how he conducts he business - Very Sad indeed Finally after constantly sending emails and putting this information in BBB and emailing him. On 4/15/11 I wrote: Oleg Please correspond with me before this starts getting very ugly. I would appreciate your prompt response. Regards ________________________________________________________________ He replies to my message - I'm feeling better now From: Tim Walace ximum sify com Subject: Re: Ebony To: Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 9:53 PM Hello, Sorry, have been busy with work. Please supply your bank account details for the refund. regards _______________________________________________________________ On 4/16/11, "Tim Walace" wrote Hello Sandi, I already told you that i am away and if you want your money back in your account, that should happen late next week as i get paid mid next week. About the Insurance, it will cost $120 for Ebony to join you. I have contacted the freight company to make sure all the papers are ready and they should contact you on a business day as they are not working today. I understand you expect me to respond asap but i am away and only get the chance to email you once or twice a day. Thank you Oleg 1. He never sent any email that he was away. Liar 2. He of course needs more money (that's over the 500.00 he already has) He has done this before On 4/18/11 Oleg: Please return my $400.00 per your agreement Regards, Monday, April 18, 2011 1:26 AM From: "Tim Walace" ximum sify com To: Hello Sandi, You did not pay all the $500, according to our emails, you had to pay half upfront and the balance upon delivery. I have the receipt details you sent to me which you said $250 has been paid into my account. If you want your refund, it should be $250 as indicated in my account. I will forward the receipt details and email you sent about paying the $250. regards Now it's only 250.00 and he is going to send me the proof! Good ... I sent him proof from my bank - Fraud What a HORRIBLE PERSON Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 This is the record from my account $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed He refuses to even write back now. He has my money and has no problem Ripping me off. Please help others to not lose their precious money. He Frauds people who love animals. ________________________________________________________________________ This is his contract and he doesn't even go by his own agreement. PUPPY SALES CONTRACT / AGREEMENT The following agreemtn is between Tim Walace (Breeder), hereafter referred as the "seller,"and Sandi , hereafter referred to as "Purchaser". In consideration of a purchase price of USD dollar ($400), of which $100 is a non-refundable deposit, the Seller transfers in fee simple all rights, privileges & responsibilities with the ownership of the male dog of the THAI RIDGBACK breed to Purchaser as of the date & time specified below. The breeder warrants the puppy 6 months of good health, every effort has been made to ensure that your puppy is healthy in body & mind,and is sold subject to it being understood that as a living creature it is impossible to predict how it will continue to develop, especially as regards behaviour over which you will have the principal influence. Both your puppy & parents are typical examples of the breed, with excellent temperament. The puppies have been cared in a busy family envirronment, exposed to all normal household activities. It is essential that you take your puppy to a veterinarian in the first 45days for a health check. Should there be a health problem not attributable to its journey home (travel sickness)) or change in food or water, and this renders him unfit for sale as a companion, a full refund of the purchase price will be made in production of a veterinary report. You will be provided with food that the puppy has been reared on. Any changes must be gradual. If through unforseen circumstances it becomes necessary for you to find your dog a new home, you should contact me as i may be in the a better position to find the RIGHT new home, this would normally not entail any refund, as the adopter would not expect to pay for an older pup or adult dog. I hope your puppy will be a valued member of your family for a long happy healthy lieftime. The purchaser agrees to abide by the rules drwn up by the breeder and agrees to complete the balance in case of any advance payment. Name of Dog : EBONY Date of Birth : 6th January 2011 Reg Number : 08-268990/TRB Breed : THAI RIDGBACK Sex : MALE Seller : TIM WALACE Seller : SANDI Address : 5641 Tahama st Address : ______________________ Sacramento,CA 95841 ________________________ Date : Thursday March 24,2011 Date : www lilischihuahuas co ne Name: Tim Walace: His real name is: Oleg Kotiouk Phone Listed on the Site 702 409 6269 Address: 436 Howe Avenue, Sacramento, CA 95825 Email Address of Owner: Tim Walace ximum sify.com Business Name: Lili's Chihuahuas REPORT TITLE: Lili's Chihuahuas Scam and Fraudulent The lies continue - it has been a month since i sent this man the money for my dog and all I get is nothing. OLEG These are the transactions from my bank account. Please refund my money APRIL 12TH 2011 Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $300.00 04/12/2011 C82C8-4GNX8 Processed Oleg Kotiouk Tim Walace -3413 $200.00 03/30/2011 C6ZQR-H2B60 Processed
It is now the end of April and you have been paid so this is another lie your telling. I want my money back. Why do you keep asking me for more money. Please return my money
--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Tim Walace ximum sify com wrote:
From: Tim Walace ximum sify com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To:
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 7:00 PM
Hi,
Can you please send a copy of the receipt since you say i should not get 400 back? Please do because I have proof!
regards
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:33 AM OLEG Please return my $400.00 per our agreement. On Mon, 4/18/11, Tim Walace ximum sify comwrote:
From: Tim Walace ximum sify com
Subject: Re: Ebony
To:
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 1:26 AM
Hello Sandi You did not pay all the $400, according to our emails, you had to pay half upfront and the balance upon delivery. I have the receipt details you sent to me which you said $250 has been paid into my account. If you want your refund, it should be $250 as indicated in my account. I will forward the receipt details and email you sent about paying the
$250.
regards On 4/18/11,
Oleg: PLEASE RETURN MY 400.00 TO MY ACCOUNT!!! Regards, --- On Sat, 4/16/11, Tim Walacewrote:
To:
Date: Saturday, April 16, 2011, 2:29 PM
Hello Sandi,
I already told you that i am away and if you want your money back in your account, that should happen late next week as i get paid mid next week. About the Insurance, it will cost $120 for Ebony to join you. I have contacted the freight company to make sure all the papers are ready and they should contact you on a business day as they are not
working today. I understand you expect me to respond asap but i am away and only get the chance to email you once or twice a day. Thank you Sure it will cost more money then the 500.00
Fraud
On 4/16/11S
Oleg
I did not get anything about Insurance but i did get all your emails to send the money to you!
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