| Insight Group PLC |
| lies published on this web site |
| 10th of Feb, 2012 by Mrs V Hobbs |
I am an investor with Insight PLC and am shocked at the stuff (mainly rumours) that has been published on this site. Of course, I have researched all the accusations made and found them to be totally unfounded. Joe Upchurch does not run Insight, he was only consulted about a Turkish property deal. Besides, Upchurch left Aston LLoyd before it went into receivership and he never owned that company. Aston LLoyd was owned by a Kulvir Virk. I have the latitude and longitude position of the Moringa plantations in Gambia and Mozambique which are freely available from the company and one can check by satellite that they are there. You can also check their accounts, their tax bills, their registration documents, their legal deeds, the fact that they have bought the agricultural leases which they have the legal right to sell, etc., etc.. The sad fact is people don't do their due dilligence and are thus susceptible to the sorts of stories that always seem to circulate around companies that offer some sort of alternative investment. Contrary to myth they are not all fraudulent but do need to be thoroughly investigated before one invests hard earned money. The one real risk that I can see about this investment is that false rumours from ex emplyees with a grudge could possibly put this company out of business. That still leaves us with our land and moringa trees but doing business in Africa is not a piece of cake. So I do urge investors to do their homework and consult the company personally if they're not happy about something before publishing something that has no basis of truth!
Mrs V Hobbs |
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| Mrs Hobbs, youre talking like a fool, as they say a fool and their money are easily parted, upchurch does run insight, ray pearson is rowlatt, you are being played over the phone and you are sucking up everything they say because you have your money tied with them, look back on these posts over the next few months or years and think to yourself ... this is a hard lesson but i have now learned! im not trying to be harsh but you are being blinded by their phone chat.. beleive me i know!!! |
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| How do you "know"?? Of course, you could look at title deeds and run round plantations and still be scammed, theoretically. But why would Insight turn down good money telling me that they have sold as much moringa in Mozambique as they wish too? If they were running some sort of ponzi scheme wouldn't they be robbing Petyer to pay Paul?? Their phase 1 investors have been payed out (I believe as I write this that there are still some remaining investors waiting in the pipe-line) but they haven't come back to me for the money I offered them. I may be a fool, but surely if they wanted to seperate a fool from her money they have had ample opportunity to do so. |
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| I would like to add that I am fully aware that James Rowlatt is a senior executive at Insight Plc, but neither he or Joe Upchurch are crooks. In fact, I hope Upchurch is still around at Insight somewhere because he is a very experienced and knowledgeable man as is Rowlatt and will no doubt be able to advise the company well as it develops its property project in Dubai. Let's not confuse a company that goes into receivership (Aston LLoyd) with a scam. We are living in turbulent economic times and have seen some well established, household name companies go bust, have we not? Were they criminal? No, of course not! You can read about Aston Lloyd on line. There were three companies in the Aston Lloyd group. The one in which Joe Upchurch served on the board of directors went into receivership in October 2010. Upchurch quitted the board in July 2010 for what it's worth, but the agricultural group, the one that sold land investments in the Ukraine has only just recently gone into receivership. Understandably those investors are concerned, but they have their land allbeit the dividends might not be received this year. I believe that a couple of companies, one of them Obelisk International, have shown an interest in purchasing which should prove to anyone that there is something to purchase. If it was a scam the company would have no assets worthy of the name and no company would be interested in buying something that did not exist except a lot of furious investors who had been cheated. It's unfortunate that many investors are totally ignorant about business and how the companies they invest in opperate because it is this lack of understanding that creates the mass hysteria generated when that ubiquitous word "scam" is invoked. Consequently you have a forum of individuals, even some who've actually received their promised dividends, feeding their own anxieties and everyone else's with various strange ideas, misconceptions and distortions of the truth. Some of this is fed to them by weird individuals who relish the power to make all that happen. Like that extraordinary person behind "A fool and his money". Perhaps you've also noticed, but he or she seems to spend all the time on line looking to stir trouble, crying "scam" at just about every alternative investment out there. In the mix you also have some disgruntled ex employees, one who says he worked for Insight for three years (a long time to keep quiet about a scam I would think) and "knows" things. Now other ex-employees seem to be following suit, some claiming that the photograph of the moringa plantation sent to investors like myself in 2011 cannot be Insight's because the trees appear to be three or four years old and therefore older than the company. What they may not know is that moringa can grow to a height of twenty feet in the first year and well over that in optimum conditions. That is why investors received their first dividend in such a short space of time. Moringa grows mighty quick and can't be compared with say apple trees in the UK. All in all, the evidence seems to point at some conspiracy against Insight rather than dodgy dealings on the company's part - for reasons of revenge, extortion perhaps. Maybe even, some employees really did decide to leave because they believed or were led to believe that something fishy was going on. But so far, no one has described the exact nature of this so-called scam. No one has produced any evidence of such and, strangely, the accusers prefer to blog rather than do what I would have thought the obvious thing - contact the financial ombardsman and notify the police - who I'm sure (if their case was reasonable) would be glad to conduct an investigation. Finally, I am considering a holiday to Mozambique this year and if I go I will be visiting the plantation and meeting some Insight people. I promise I will report all my findings, publish photos, etc.. And if I do smell any rats I promise I will be initiating legal action big time, rest assured, I won't just be blogging! |
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Wanabuy,
I really do hope you keep a copy of your blogs because you will one day look back and realize that you have indeed been a fool, I wish you luck but i know even that will not help over the next few years of excuses coming your way from the upchurches. |
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Mrs. V. Hobbs & Wanabuy
You two certainly WERE standing behind the door when the brains were being given out.
Joe Upchurch, James Rowlatt and all of that lot only do scams. They only do scams, and have only ever done scams. If you look back into their history, that is all you will find. Kulvier Singh Virk's the same.
I know you probably think that the Police would have colsed them down, but that's because you live in Cloud Cookoo land. The Police who deal with this stuff aren't normal coppers, they're City of London, or the Serious Fraud Office. They are not there to help you out, in this instance, as with the Aston Lloyd matters, they will be clearly in on the entire thing, as was confirmed when I made a report to them, regarding the AL Ponzi Scheme, and they did anything but investigate, to the extent that they were easily complicit, if not the far more serious reality, that they are told not to investigate alternative investment companies, so we all keep our money in the Post Office, or the banks. They do as their Masonic masters tell them to. You are not meant to invest in things like this, or the usury system won't work, and they'll have to work like everyone else. Tony Dobinson acutally refused to investigate them, on the grounds that some of them used to work for "us". And even better, regarding the solicitors: "I'm not going down there, cos they work in an office." No shit Sherlock.
Rowlatt didn't go to ground as he's a straight business man. He's hiding, or hopefully he's been or being murdered. Fingers crossed on that one.
If you want your money back, target the endorsers, the soliciotrs and the accountants. The last two will have insureance, and there's not so much need to investigate anything as the evidence is largely with you, so the cost will be low. |
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