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I am currenting looking for an apartment to rent at Rio de Janeiro city, as soon as I had just moved
2nd of Jul, 2010 by User229692
I am currenting looking for an apartment to rent at Rio de Janeiro city, as soon as I had just moved in the city. I am looking at many websites, when I found this add from Louis telling the rental price it was half of the market price. We start to negociate as you can see at the email history below... but for a reason, I decide to investigate this company Moneybookers, so I found a lot of claims at the internet. Of course I stopped the negociotation. .................... From : Louis Bentley para mim mostrar detalhes 15:05 (55 minutos atrás) I want to inform you that MoneyBookers will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense.I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to MoneyBookers Service the first month of rent + security deposit - R$1750 - so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract.Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:1 - To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address to proceed with this deal .2 - I go to the MoneyBookers Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.3 - MoneyBookers will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys.4 - MoneyBookers wildelivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it.5 - At this point you will have to go to a WesternUnion Agent Location and make a money transfer deposit on the MoneyBookers agent name in London / UK assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit is for the first month of rent.6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to MoneyBookers (MTCN#, sender's name and address)7 - MoneyBookers will verify the payment informations and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you .8 - After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct MoneyBookers to release the funds to me.If you don't like the apt they will send your money back and you will send them the keys and the contract to them to return the package back to me on my expense.I will pay MoneyBookers Service for the shipping and you will pay WesternUnion for the Money Transfer fees.Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the MoneyBookers delivery.very Important: WesternUnion is just a methos of payment , they are not authorized to give you any information about this transaction for your security.You just have to do a normal money transfer to a person (moneybookers agent).Only MoneyBookers has access to this transaction for more security.Thank you for your interest and wait news from you. Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:52:51 -0200- Ocultar texto das mensagens anteriores - Subject: Re: Imóveis - Mensagem para: Apartamento Padrão,IPANEMA (RIO DE JANEIRO) - R$ 750,00From: wagner.xxxxxxx To : [email protected] Hi Louis, I checked it the Moneybookers website, and for me it´s fine and I agreed with the terms.It´s fare enough. Please provide me with your mobile, so we can move fowards to the details. Concerning to make you a wire transfer, this should not be an issue at all, since I use to do such transaction in the past. Where is your bank located? Brazil or UK? I am looking to hear from you soon.Best regards,Wags Em 10 de fevereiro de 2011 17:51, Louis Bentley <[email protected]> escreveu: Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in London / Uk already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be R$750 + 1000 security deposit (R$1750), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you. The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem 0for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=ENLet me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:42:09 -0200Subject: Re: Imóveis - Mensagem para: Apartamento Padrão,IPANEMA (RIO DE JANEIRO) - R$ 750,00 From: wagner.xxxxxx To: [email protected] Dear Louis, could you please tell me if you got my previous email, and whether you are still interested? ThanksWagner Em 9 de fevereiro de 2011 20:47, WAGNER xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: Hi Louis, My name is Wagner xxxxx, and I am interested at your apartament. Also because of work I have been relocated from xxxxxx (my born city) to Rio as my permanent base (work place). I lived in Rio already many times because of my work, I am also enginner from the Telecom field, and have been moved around the globe for 5 years, so I really understand you! Concerning about the right person, I also try to be on your shoes, once I also have a furniture apartment, brend new which has being designed by a arquitect firm, so I can say I am kind of jealous to rent it for a unknow person. I am a kind of person that treat the others people staff as it is my own, because I know how hard is to get them (at least it was to me) ;-) Please feel free to contact me at +xxxxxxx or +5xxxxxxxx I arrived yesterday at Rio, and I current living in the hotel one blocked from Copacabana beach, so will be not a problem to meet with you face to face to discuss the detail.Concerning about the period, I intent to have a long term contract, as far as I will permanent living in Rio. Hope to hear from you soonKindly regards,Wagner xxxxx Em 9 de fevereiro de 2011 13:22, Louis Bentley <[email protected]> escreveu: Hello,Thank you for your interest. My name is Louis Bentley and from the internet add, you could see, i have available the apartment located in: Rua Nascimento Silva 76, Ipanema - Rio de Janeiro, 22421-020, Brazil. It has 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room.I am looking for someone to live in it, as soon as possible, because my company has won the auction for a project, in construction, for a building that will rise up in London, England / United Kingdom . I am a civil engineer, so my accommodation period in London will be about 4 - 6 years. The renting period is from 1 months upto 1-8 years. As a result of this I want to rent, for this period, at this price and also to find the perfect person for my apartment. I`m the owner of the apt and it's like in the pics.The apartment is furnished, but I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). The rent for 1 month is R$750 (for the whole apartment) including all utilities (water, electricity, Internet, cable, parking, air conditioning, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I`m the only person who has the keys but I hope that we will find a solution.Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.Louis BentleyP.S. Please tell me if this is what are you looking for and reply my only if you are truly interested in the apt From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:39:27 -0200Subject: Imóveis - Mensagem para: Apartamento Padrão,IPANEMA (RIO DE JANEIRO) - R$ 750,00 Olá, Louis.Você recebeu uma mensagem para seu anúncio:Código do anúncio: IM31648581 (zap id)Apartamento Padrão,IPANEMA (RIO DE JANEIRO) - R$ 750,00(ver anúncio) Boa noite, tenho interesse no apartamento, quais sao as condicoes e quando posso visitar o imovel? Grato Wagner Mensagem enviada por:Wagner xxxxx(xx) xxxxx-xxxxx Entre em contato o mais breve possível com os interessados em seus anúncios para não perder bons negócios. Atenciosamente,Equipe ZAP ========================= I read an report and I decide to contribute as my history as well. Do always a reserching and " If something looks so good to be truth, it´s because probably it doesn´t is"

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